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November 13th, 2010 · 1 Comment

 the eminent Rabbis Feinstein and Soloveitchik  

Rabbi Feinstein reinforces his understanding that Thanksgiving is not a religious holiday in a responsum published in 1980. He states: “On the issue of joining with those who think that Thanksgiving is like a holiday to eat a meal: Since it is clear that according to their religious law books this day is not mentioned as a religious holiday and that one is not obligated in a meal [according to Gentile religious law] and since this is a day of remembrance to citizens of this country, when they came to reside here either now or earlier, halakhah [Jewish law] sees no prohibition in celebrating with a meal or with the eating of turkey. One sees similar to this in Kiddushin 66 that Yanai the king made a party after the conquest of kochlet in the desert and they ate vegetables as a remembrance. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik also agreed that Thanksgiving was not a Gentile holiday, and ruled that it was permissible to eat turkey on Thanksgiving. Rabbi Hershel Schachter, in his intellectual biography of Rabbi Soloveitchik, Nefesh HaRav, writes: “It was the opinion of Rabbi Soloveitchik that it was permissible to eat turkey at the end of November, on the day of Thanksgiving. We understood that, in his opinion, there was no question that turkey did not lack a tradition of kashrut and that eating it on Thanksgiving was not a problem of imitating gentile customs. We also heard that this was the opinion of his father, Rabbi Moshe Soloveitchik. “_____I did not write this.It was sent to me anonymously.HASHEM KNOW WHO AND WILL  BLESS ACCORDINGLY.

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Great Post on the Great rabbi Soloveitchik!
Ironic I never considered thanksgiving one way or another,I would have thought on my own it was a goyishe holiday we Jews have nothing in common with,until I saw the Halachic reading from Rabbi Soloveitchik that I totally trust his opinions on. Thanks for running the article, it was definitely informative. Thanks Dacon for the blog..and the information you outreach to us..Please keep that up!
Sid

 

Hello Jews with Views
Thanx for posting the story on the Halacha and Thanksgiving. I completely agree with Rabbi Soloveitchik,
 The holiday is to commemorate the first documented exchanges between the Europeans and indingenous peoples while the United States of America was in early periods of forming, The Holiday marks an attestament between two peoples who came together in peace and humanity. Religion had nothing to do with it.
Sincerely,
Rachel

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Shalom Jews with Views
Rav Yosef Soloveitchik Z’tl’s Kiruv rechokim , hilchos bri’us and so many things are ON the mark! Soloveitchik is a true bnei aliyah!
Avraham C.

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Shalom Jews with views
You can post this comment in the opinions page,This is a good Blog thanks for the production.
 To the Jews, lineage, riches, and other advantages are nothing in comparison with learning.
Professor Soloveitchik, is a Talmud Chacham;Jews with Views stock just went up 100 points
 
Bezalel.

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Why those who preach the Gospel are despised by G-d!
“One who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man, and one who sacrifices a lamb is like one who breaks a dog’s neck. One who offers a meal offering is like one who offers pig’s blood, and one who offers frankincense is like one who blesses sin. They too, chose their ways, and their souls desire their abominations.” (Isaiah 66:3)
READ MORE CLICK HERE
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*Never Forgive A Traitor HANAOI JANE

For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did some terrible things during the Vietnam war.  Things that can not be forgiven!!!!
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     and now OBAMA wants to honor her……!!!!

 
   
In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland  who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton

IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!

She really is a traitor.

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70′s and after who do not remember, and didn’t have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear..

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ’100 Women of the Century.’

READ WHOLE STORY CLICK NOW BY BARBRA WALTERS

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blogger Ztvi Fishman says:

 Esav, our arch enemy.

These past few weeks, we have been reading in the Torah a capsule blueprint of world history. First, we met Avraham, the father of the nation chosen by G-d to bring G-d’s word to the world through our living a life of holiness in the Land of Israel. Then we met Yishmael, the wild beast of a man, whose descendants, the Arabs have been contesting our right to the Land of Israel, right down to this very day. Then, we met the hairy ape, Esav, or Esau. From the very womb, he has been contesting our place as the Divine chosen nation, doing everything in his power to usurp us from our G-d given role. Esav is Edom. His descendants became the Romans, and the Germans, the Russians, and the Americans. 

Edom is Christianity and the whole Christian world. America is a Christian country. How can Jews live there?

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 The reason the country is in such poor shape, Shamalov-Berkovich says, is because of the leadership’s “obsession” with reaching a peace agreement with the Palestinian Authority. “Everyone is interested in what the U.S., the EU, and the OECD say, while they are satisfied to see the rest of the country fall apart. I am interested in preserving the Jewish people, and Israel as a Jewish state.”

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WHILE I AM ON  THE SUBJECT OF BLOGGERS FROM A PRETEND ‘RIGHT WING’ JUDAIC VIEW arutz sheva,  WHICH *SHOULD BE SPEAKING FOR  ***ALLLLL *** JEWS WORLD WIDE BUT IS CENTERED ON  only ISRAELI JEWS AS BEING  RIGHTEOUS JEW AND JEWS OUTSIDE ISRAEL AS BEING **SINNERS AS THEIR head personality AND RECENTLY MADE SO CALLED RABBI JEREMY GIMPEL WHO THREATENED TO SUE ME….YO JEREMY…We  Jews and Rabbis outside of Israel are still waiting for your apologies and all goyim also are waiting for your apologies oh yes as i was saying jeremy was threatening to sue me…. IN A VIELED THREAT…

and Arutz Sheva censors  my posts for exposing or at least voicing MY views on their subject at hand many times or using large fonts..lol..

 On Arutz sheva I mentioned ”How soon you readers forgot the great series on the prophets by Rabbi Tovia Singer and his guest David Solomon.”This was posted for ONE DAY THEN **REMOVED FROM THEIR  ‘on the wall’  section. jeremy did you do that? are you jealous that I Praised Rabbi Tovia series on the prophets? lololol silly boy…..jeremy it will be a long day before you have a semicha to use in Brooklyn NY..We have high standards in this ”galut”.

I presently recommend  another bloggers article…..Tamar Yonah has written an excellent piece  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/3   PLEASE READ  IT.

I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO REPOST MY STORY ON MECHILA. Here is the link. http://www.jewswithviews.com/mechila-i-ask-mechila-forgiveness/08/28/

Rabbi Feinstein reinforces his understanding that Thanksgiving is not a religious holiday in a responsum published in 1980. He states: “On the issue of joining with those who think that Thanksgiving is like a holiday to eat a meal: Since it is clear that according to their religious law books this day is not mentioned as a religious holiday and that one is not obligated in a meal [according to Gentile religious law] and since this is a day of remembrance to citizens of this country, when they came to reside here either now or earlier, halakhah [Jewish law] sees no prohibition in celebrating with a meal or with the eating of turkey. One sees similar to this in Kiddushin 66 that Yanai the king made a party after the conquest of kochlet in the desert and they ate vegetables as a remembrance. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik also agreed that Thanksgiving was not a Gentile holiday, and ruled that it was permissible to eat turkey on Thanksgiving. Rabbi Hershel Schachter, in his intellectual biography of Rabbi Soloveitchik, Nefesh HaRav, writes: “It was the opinion of Rabbi Soloveitchik that it was permissible to eat turkey at the end of November, on the day of Thanksgiving. We understood that, in his opinion, there was no question that turkey did not lack a tradition of kashrut and that eating it on Thanksgiving was not a problem of imitating gentile customs. We also heard that this was the opinion of his father, Rabbi Moshe Soloveitchik. “

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  • 1 DACON9 // Nov 17, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    LOL
    YOURE A GREAT GUY
    DONT WORRY
    YOU REPRESENT PROFESSOR BECAUSE THATS HOW WE MET
    SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND IF HE WAS OFFENDED IN ANYWAY
    IT WAS BECAUSE HE INTRODUCED US AND AS A GENTLEMAN
    HE COULDNT AFFORD TO LOWER HIS YEARS
    OF PUBLIC PERSONA AS A PROFESSOR AND GENTLEMAN.
    THE PROF MUST MAINTAIN HIS DIGNITY PERSONALLY AND PUBLICALLY.
    i BET THE PROF IS PROUD OF YOU ALSO BECAUSE IF HE DIDNT CARE ABOUT YOU… HE WOULDNT *CARE ABOUT YOU……..
    IT TAKES A REAL JEW TO SAY WHAT YOU TOLD ME…
    YOU HAVE FEELINGS AND YOU EXPRESSED IN IN YOUR
    CARING OF THE PROF AND YOUR FUTURE
    ..BRAVO TO YOU… I AM SURE YOUR PARENTS ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU…
    EVEN IF AT TIMES LIKE ALL PARENTS THEY DONT EXPRESS IT.