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4) My fight with Arutz Sheva,Rabbi Tovia Singer and jeremy gimpel

PART 1

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REALIZED YOUR MOTHER OR FATHER OR BEST FRIEND LIED TO YOU?  HOW DID YOU FEEL?  HOW HURT WERE YOU?

I WAS DEVASTATED from Arutz Sheva  top radio hosts especially Rabbi Tovia Singer. It is taking me a few weeks to write this .Before I sat down to do so I wanted to question as many Rabbis as I can to check my feelings, my bias, my emotions, my hot personality, my lack of  enough Torah knowledge.I wanted to know if I had a right to get so very angry on “AIR” with jeremy gimple and Rabbi Tovia. Did I make a fool of myself by getting so angry. I know that if I remained calm and ‘processed’ jeremy I would have made a complete fool of him, I have the experience from business and from life. One of the techniques is to raise the pitch a little to test his endurance to ‘heat’. jeremy couldnt take it from  the first words and just before I was cut from the show he blurted out in his anger  ”and you rich jews in Boro Park in your mansions……..”. 

As a  ‘caller’ on air and not a guest, it was unlikely that I would be able to debate jeremy any way. Rabbi Tovia Singer, yes , but it was jermey gimpel that made the remarks that I was calling about,,and that  was one of the thoughts racing through my mind in  the heat of the shouting match between jeremy  and me, what can I say before I get cut off.

Believe me I tried to find a rabbi of the many rabbis torah orthodox rabbis, that will rebuke me. I wanted to be wrong, I wanted to be embarrassed, I wanted my hero Rabbi Tovia Singer to remain  MY HERO.

Instead I found only supporters of my anger. Middle aged elder Rabbis  told me that I didnt yell enough on the ‘air’ , or I wasnt angry enough. Now let me be clear.I do not speak to or know any ’sophisticated  thousand dollar suited rabbis such as shlomo riskin that jeremy gimpel so admires. The rabbis I speak to are scholars, full time Torah learner, teachers in yeshivot that adhere to traditional teachings according to the LAWS as brought down from MOSHE RABBEINU to us the people. They do not make independent decisions that would not be accepted universally by a like bet din or by the chief ashkanaz or sephardic rabbis.

In fact Rabbi Tovia and I exchanged emails after the show about the rabbi we both knew, He went to learn with and I went to just hear his shiurim, RABBI AVIGDOR MILLER ZTL. I must stress that I am by no means a good learner, I struggle like most of us. BUT I ALSO STRESS THAT I PRAY EVERY DAY FOR HASHEM TO GUIDE ME, TO KNOW AND SEPARATE THE GOOD FROM THE BAD, TO LEAD ME TO THE GOOD,  STRENGTH TO STUDY EVEN A LITTLE TORAH, TO IMPROVE  MYSELF.

This started maybe 3 weeks ago when jermey gimpel was co-host of  Rabbi Tovia Singer. Jeremy started  the show talking about his experiences in America the week before. Mind you on speaking engagements which we are pretty sure has to be for a fee. FOR AMERICAN MONEY. Jeremy said ON AIR. it was horrible to have to rub shoulders with the goyim, it was disgusting  etc etc and he traveled to areas where the local Americans hunt and put the animals on the hood of their car ( to bring home to skin and eat) …he said it was disgusting like backwards people the goyim…and on and on and he was telling this story he said that he uses as his opening remarks because he gets laughs.

Then jeremy continues to say that any Rabbi in America that doesnt constantly hit away at American Jews to make aliyah, move to Israel is a sinner, He repeated that a few times and the  congregation and every Jew in America is a sinner. He was clear and emphatic about this, that JEWS IN AMERICA ARE SINNERS AND AT THE TOP OF THE LIST THE RABBIS ARE SINNERS IF they dont constantly try or demand we make aliyah….got it? …and how horrible it was in America with goyim all over the place rubbing shoulders with them……

I called in and got through at the last 5 minutes asking for ‘clarification”  Sad to say, Rabbi Tovia who answerd the phone on air was laughing with jeremy at my question  like grade school kids . I even said ”whats so funny?”. AND SO JEREMY REPEATED THE SAME MANTRA OF HIS. THE RABBIS ARE SINNING ALL OF THEM NONE EXCLUDED AND ALL THE  JEWS.

ALL WEEK I WAS BOILING FROM THAT. AM I  SINNING? I am trying so damned hard to be just a little better..The greatest Rabbis , me, all  Jews are sinning? …WOW. WHAT A STATEMENT TO HEAR ON PUBLIC AIRWAVES TO THOUSANDS OF LISTENERS BOTH JEW AND NON JEW. Icould only think of some of the greatest rabbis in this generation that the jewish world goes by their standard  rulings in Torah, RABBI MOSHE FIENSTIEN A’ H, RABBI PAM  A’H , RABBI AVIGDOR MILLER A’H..and they are sinning? and this young punk from’ psycodelic’  land knows the truth ?…the secrets that our masters are still trying to understand?  Could it be jeremy the rude arrogant insecure punk  knows what our great Rabbis dont ?  Where ever I went, who ever I saw that wore a black hat, any shul I went into, anyone holding  A GEMARA or any sefer IN HIS HAND IN THE NYC SUBWAY, I WOULD WALK UP AND DISCUSS THIS. YES I DO THAT. I DO WALK UP TO STRANGERS AND OPEN CONVERSATIONS. 

 (from ‘salant foundation:  ’Therefore, to gain a well-rounded Torah view, it is important to  study, learn, and discuss Torah with other people. Perhaps, they can illuminate areas of Torah that you have not yet mastered.’) (‘May we discover new insights from both “teachers and students.” In turn, our knowledge will be enriched; and goodness and joy will fill our hearts’)
THEY (strangers) WERE SHOCKED TO HEAR THE STORY.

THE FOLLOWING WEEK I CALLED IN TO HIS SHOW A LOT EARLIER…..

 TO BE CONTINUED SHORTLY

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PAST 2 CONTINUED:

JEREMY Part 2

The first week I called the Rabbi Tovia show and  asked  jeremy for his meaning of him saying ‘’he had to brush shoulders with goyim and it was disgusting’’, he even told Rabbi Tovia that he tells that story with the dead animal on the car roofs and this is what non jews are all about for laughs to start his  lecture.

.Now the second week I called earlier and jeremey said without skipping a beat in an arrogant tone dismissing me as an irrelevant nothing saying that he didn’t remember saying that..

 “ I told him, “ I have the recording  keyed up from last week, do you want me to play it for you jeremy now or do you want to play the mp3 of your show?” And so jeremey started to raise his pitch to filibuster me, non stop talking fast and strong so that I couldn’t speak, and  I kept saying and raised my pitch  also “let me talk let me talk. This was all live on air

 He started giving me meaningless nonsense talk  at a rapid pace so I couldn’t get to speak. I also kept raising my voice to be heard he was giving me jibberish until  finally I said. ’’hey don’t try to con me I am not a kid that buys your story, I am Rabbi Tovia’s age’’.  I wanted him to know that I ‘ve been around the block buddy…

 Jeremey kept ranting not stopping for breath, filibustering me. As he was giving me his baloney about goyim rubbing shoulders and we must make aliyah and every american Rabbi ,,,,( I hope he doesnt want to  join the mickey mouse club..lolol,, just joking )

 At that point I don’t even know what he was rambling about. bt while he wa rambling and rambling

 I  YELLED IN “ we are taught to separate from goyim but not to ridicule, mock or embarrass goyim, especially publicly.  I DONT HAVE GOY FRIENDS BUT  I  DONT INSULT THEM PUBLICLY JEREMY….
 and so  he kept yelling, not acknowledging what I was saying  and so I kept yelling and repeating ‘’where does it say in Torah that we can publicly insult goyim JEREMY SHOW ME , show me where jeremy show me where we can insult non Jews..?”

 Jeremy kept  yelling and I kept  yelling “let me talk already LET ME TALK ”

I repeated  “Did you say that all Rabbis and Jews in America are sinners”. Jeremy kept  on a non stop rant, filibustering me. I said ‘let me talk ,let me say something’

 Then Jeremy said the

 “ Jews in America are saying America is my new Jerusalem.

And then he said “ you rich Jews in Boro Park Brooklyn living in your mansions……’

I SCREAMED at him …..“ What?  Do you know how many Jews cant afford a Shabbat meal, what is the matter with you,, do you know how many Jews doesn’t have money to buy an egg in the morning’’ WHATS WRONG WITH YOU’’ i REALLY LOST IT THEN…

At that point I was cut off the air…..

I had a  snide remark to his  ‘Jews in America  this is our new Jerusalem” ,its cruel in my opinion  whathe said..and more crue if i repeated the following    what I wanted to say in my best New York accent…..

’’ yo jeremyprobably it was your  grandparents  that said.. Berlin is our new Jerusalem’. is that where you got that slogan from jeremy baby…..

 BUT, I didnt and wouldnt have said that to hurt our survivors…

HOW CAN HE DIG SUCH HARSH EXAMPLES IS MY POINT.

HOW INSECURE IS HE TO SAY … “YOU RICH JEWS’’’

I WONDER IF HE EVER WAS CAUGHT IN THE MESSIANIC XTIAN  OR BUDDIST MOVEMENT TO HAVE SUCH A WARPED MIND IN MY OPINION.

Any self respecting Jew should not tune them  in anymore until they apologize to All those rabbis souls and all the plain jews and all the goyeem..

 Rabbi Tovia sent me an email following the show, as we have exchanged emails before many times.

AND THAT WILL BE PART 3

reading some of the comments not all is a hint of  tovias end product not to mention  the jeremey Kumbaya fan club …..

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J.R.

Tovia, leviticus 17:11 says “the blood makes cleansing of the soul possable”.You said this was not said in the old testament, only in the new testament, in Hebrews. Tovia please get your facts straight. We see you got a heart for our Father, but please quote Him right.

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18 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Sarah // Dec 8, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Proberbs says: Don’t answer a fool according to his folly – you will be like him and also – when words are many, sin is not absent. Both you and the other men should beware of this…

  • 2 DACON9 // Dec 8, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    FROM DACON9 THE EDITOR: SARAH, YOUR TRANSLATION IS XTIAN OF KING SOLOMONS PROVERB, YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OF A XTIAN UNDERSTANDING.

    AND I WILL PRACTICE THAT VERY PROVERB WITH YOU AND NOT ENTERTAIN your xtian understanding and interpretations and ideas and ignorant critique from YOU the FOOL

    TOVIA and JERMEY SINNED GRAVELY..ONE OF THE MOST GRAVEST OF SINS….

  • 3 Rabbi Video Butcheristein // Jan 2, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Rabbi Tovia is innocent , Don’t blame him Breset Hasham, Amen.

  • 4 DACON9 // Jan 3, 2010 at 7:10 am

    there is no rabbi in the world thatwould agree with you. If tovia sat by saying nothing,
    even if in his heart he didnt approve of jeremys rant on ALL THE JEWS AMD RABBIS IN AMERICA ARE SINNING IF THEY DONT MAKE ALIYAH
    AND THOSE RABBIS DO NOT TELL THEIR KAHAL TO MAKE ALIYAH , EVEN IF IN HIS (TOVIA) HEART HE DIDNT AGREE
    THAT THE GOYIM ARE A ”DISGUSTING EXPERIENCE TO ‘RUB SHOULDERS WITH IN AMERICA ”,
    For jeremy to PUBLICALLY SAY SUCH THINGS ON ‘AIR’, and TOVIA sitting next to him saying nothing *IS BEING AN ACCOMPLICE TO JEREMYS UGLY RANT.
    I REPEAT, THERE IS NO TORAH RABBI IN THE WORLD THAT WOULD SAY THAT TOVIA IS INNOCENT.
    AS I SAID…..I USED TO LOVE HIM, I IDOLIZED HIM..And it was very painful TO BE LET DOWN.

    But then again it also seems that arutz sheva sold out to the goyim audience.
    If you follow the AREUTZ SHEVA talkback comments you will see that quite a lot of readers and listeners say they have sold out.

    Being he tovia singer has rabbinical trainig and a semicha makes him more responsible.

    You say dont blame him..I can blame it on former pres Bush or i can blame him who sat there laughing..whether in shock or in agreement with jeremy gimpel…i guess the buck does stop with pres BUsh..doesnt it.

  • 5 Emet // Jan 31, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Are these guys for real? ‘Good Cop, Bad Cop’.
    A spectacle indeed, though maybe not representative of all their opinions. On the basis of these two links and having watched a few shows at random, we would find it most distressing to have to witness more of the same in the hope of eventually finding something good.
    Have we completely misread their stance? Their manner, speech, mocking and baseness indicate a real ‘tabloid’ and what we refer to in Britain as a ‘gutter press’ approach. Although to some they may be greatly entertaining, if Torah is used as a guide then they must rate pretty high on Hashem’s ‘abominations list,’ let alone being a shocking witness to an already depraved world. Evidence indeed, that really good, academic knowledge of scripture does not necessarily prove the presence of any understanding. Should we, choosing to follow Hashem and as such joining the Jewish people, condone or denounce this, ‘show’ as they certainly make the job of the anti-zionist lobby easy. Such crass contempt for Hashem’s creation and our fellow creatures stand as a powerful indictment of their ‘brand’ of faith and their society, media organization and financial supporter’s total lack of integrity, humility and compassion. Can anyone be looking forward to a restored world in their company!
    Are we missing something here?

  • 6 DACON9 // Jan 31, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    I appreciate your response. You are as direct as I am and being condemned most times for the direct approach.
    In the ”paltalk chat room I am diced and sliced for simply statements of what Torah says and what the sages said.
    I would play or recite a rabbinical commentary from TORAY ORTHODOX RABBIS and the people in the chat room would say I am belittling them for bringing out certain points..mind you , i never said they have to do anything, i always say…WE ALL HAVE TO TRY A LITTLE HARDER..AND WE ARE NOT ABSOLVED FROM SIN FOR CALLING OURSELFS SECULAR OR REFORM….as Moshe Rabbeinu came down with ONE SET OF LAWS FOR ALL JEWS Not # different sets.
    I was not judging anyone but merely showing the folly of lying to themselfs about what their actions are versus what the TORAH ASKS OF US.

    In life, I say we all have to try to see own own weaknesses inorder to improve ourselfs in any discipline in any venture in life.

    I am guessing you saw “jeremy gimpels’ response in the blog..itsonly a justification andnot an apology .
    You mentioned academic knowledge..I believe you are agreeing that their is a lack of charcter.

    my email is: jewswithviews@gmail.com
    by the way..how did you come across my blog?

    thank you

  • 7 ELISHEVAMIRIAM // Aug 8, 2010 at 2:43 am

    the verse you use in Leviticus … the blood it refers to … is the sacrifice of the Beit HaMikdash … you know this of coarse… my point? we all have our agendas… Rabbi Tovia Singer’s agenda is publically known.. he is a ANTI missionary Rabbi put on this earth for the specific purpose of saving Jews from missionaries and other things like cults and yes… assimilation – America is the MOST dangerous place in the world for Jews – gashmius is a narcotic that has lulled our people into a deep sleep that has caused us to forget our mandate .. why the Jew was put on the earth in the first place – Hitler killed the body – America has done the rest. the average Torah Jew in Brooklyn can’t tell you what the Navim warned us about … Navi is not learned …
    they can’t tell you the fact that we are a light to the Nations and you can’t be a light if you have no contact with the Non Jew. Ask yourself, why in the LARGEST JEWISH community in the world other than Israel is there NOT ONE NOAHIDE COMMUNITY… how can it be? the answer is sad…. i understand where tovia and jeremy are coming from and if you read the TaNaCh over and over it will come to you….

  • 8 DACON9 // Aug 8, 2010 at 5:39 am

    NO RABBI IN THE WORLD WOULD EVER AGREE WITH JEREMY.
    HE MADE THE BIGGEST SIN AGAINST HASHEM.
    CHILLUL HASHEM.
    HE INSULTED SOME OF THE GREATEST RABBIS OF THE CENTURY
    IF NOT ALSO IN ALL JEWISH HISTORY.
    HE INSULTED AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY EQUAL TO HITLER
    DEATH SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING AND AS INSULTING AND DEMEANING

    ARUTZ SHEVA IS THE ‘XTIAN NATIONAL NEWS’
    IT HASNT BEEN THE ISRAEL NATIONAL NEWS IN A FEW YEARS.
    IT DOES NOT REPRESENT JUDAISM’.

    TORAH said to separate from other nations.
    IF *YOU* WANT TO BE JEWISH, YOU HAVE TO ASSOCIATE WITH JEWS.
    YOU CANNOT MIX MINDS IN A PURE TORAH.
    *YOU* DONT HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE.
    *YOU MAY THINK YOU DO, BUT YOU HAVENT LEARNED HUMILITY BASED ON THIS WHAT YOU SEND.
    AND YOU HAVENT LEARN A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS..
    ITS BEST FOR YOU TO WORRY ABOUT YOU AND NOT COMMENT ABOUT OTHERS IN WHAT YOU DONT KNOW IN THE SLIGHTEST.

    YOU DONT LIKE MY TONE?
    YOU HAVE TOLD ME THAT BEFORE.
    ITS TIME YOU TAKE MY ADVICE THAT YOU SHOULD NOT GIVE ADVICE

    THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT
    PLEASE ADD YOUR OPINIONS ANYTIME
    IF YOULIKE TO WRITE YOUR EXPERIENCES
    AND YOUR TRANSISTIONS..PLEASE WRITE AND I WILL PUT IT ON FRONT PAGE.

    THANKS

  • 9 Me // Oct 11, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Jeremy is really only 1/2 Israeli, on his dad’s side. His mother was born and raised a Christian in the midwest and only adopted the faith after her second marriage to Jeremy’s dad.

  • 10 DACON9 // Oct 11, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    THANKS..how accurate is this information?
    i wish i knew this when the fire was hot

  • 11 DACON9 // Oct 11, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    ARE YOU ARE SAYIING THAT JEREMY IS A CONVERT OR NEVER CONVERTED AT ALL?

  • 12 Me // Oct 12, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Information is accurate. He is not a ‘convert’ since he was raised following the Jewish faith.

  • 13 DACON9 // Oct 12, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    I SEE, THANK YOU, SO HIS MOTHER CONVERTED FOR MARRIGE, AND HE IS A PRODUCT OF A FALSE CONVERSION…LOL

  • 14 DACON9 // Oct 12, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    FALSE CONVERSION MEANING ONE CANNOT CONVERT FOR MARRIGE.
    SO IT HAD TO BE A REFORM CONVERSION THOSE TIMES I DONT THINK THE CONSERVATIVE WAS THAT LIBERAL.
    SO THEREFORE HE IS A GOY , A NON JEW , A BUM….LOLOLO

  • 15 Larry // Oct 24, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    DACON9, you wrote lots of colorful things at A-Sheva. You classified all the posters on Tsvi Fishman’s blogs as slanderers. Yet I read what you have written there over the past months and years about Israel. I came over here to see how you deal with posters/TBs. You provided more slander and ‘lashon hara’ in a few responses than there are in several days of Fishman’s blogs. Honestly it looks like you have little to teach; your generalizations about Israelis alone definitely qualify as slander and insult. And I don’t like Gimpel’s comments at all, but you are in no position to lecture anyone, dati or no, Jew or Gentile.

  • 16 DACON9 // Nov 1, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    arutz sheva gave gimpel a new title..he is now called ”rabbi”

  • 17 Hinda // Mar 12, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    I do not listen to Jeremy Gimpel. I do not like his voice, I do not like what he states. He reminds me of those who would stand with J Street and march with Queers for Palestine. I do not listen to his programs and have asked Arutz Sheva to find someone better who does know what he is talking about as I have heard his attacks on the Orthodox and of people like me who are not orthodox.

  • 18 Chaney // Jul 2, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    I am agreeing with Jeremy on the goyim. I have to work with them and cross paths with them constantly. The observant Jewish men are such gentlemen compared to these. They take their genitals out, and say disgusting things, are always grabbing at your body parts. Even the women are the same, talk about nothing but their moral-less bedhopping. Ridicule me, because I don’t want to date their men. I am Jewish, why would I want to date someone who eats pork and pray to Yoshke Pundrik and talks about Israel like they don’t have a right to exist as a nation.
    No, the goyim ARE disgusting. And when you factor in all of the drek, while they are trying to teach you idolatry, trying to make you convert; who needs it? I like to be happy, and I do this by filling my life with good, interesting, wholesome Jewish people.
    I like Tovia and Jeremy, they are part of a good movement for the Jewish people who are the subject of a constant onslaught by the goyim trying to teach us that our ways and our G-d are irrelevant to the Torah. “Old testament” indeed! It is the “only” testament, no goy has the authority or knowledge of torah to teach ANY Jew. Rather, the YOUNGEST Jewish child knows the G-D of Israel correctly, and is not allowed to give ammunition to those who would use knowledge of Torah incorrectly to turn it into idolatry.
    Yup, Jeremy Gimpel has a great energy, and is a Rabbi. He is allowed to teach Torah, Tanach, and Judaism. He can be trusted to teach torah-true Judasim. Wish I could say that for Rev. Billy Graham or Oral Roberts….Nothing they teach is torah-true Judaism. Only Avodah Zarah.
    This is why xtians can’t stand the perushim, they call them pharisees, because they are not allowed to learn even the smallest things that the perushim know.

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