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I just left a chat room on Paltalk that I have been visting for awhile. The real feelings came out from these so called Conservative Christians. The conversation was in regards to the Black Panthers situation in standing outside voting booths with clubs intimidating voters. I mentioned let them try that in a Jewish Community. I was attacked by a gentleman saying the Jewish Community overwhelmingly voted for Obama and put him in the White House and the Jews will not do a damn thing to Obama’s thugs due to the Jewish Support of Obama. I told the room I was not going to be abused by this person ( whom happens to be a room regular and Black). I also mentioned the fact is these thugs wanted to start up this crap in the Jewish Communities the JDL as a group would grow strong again to deal with this issue. I went in under another nic and the room guest were asking questions on why the Jews keep supporting the Democratic Party since the Republicans are more supportive of Israel in both money and prayers and general support. I have to say that support always comes with a noose and if you do not toll the line the noose gets tighter and if too tight…You will die..Wake up Jewish People.
 
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TAMAR YONAH from Arutz Sheva not only has a talk show on the internet but also has a blog.
Her blog titled:
What the Goyim Think About The Jews
is a story of a goy a chrsitine as he calls himself.
these are excerpts from the goys writing which Tamar Yonah posted:
”””This is what I feel the sum of the matter is. Many U.S. Jews hate Israel
U.S. Jews ignore Israel and this is why. Israel is an extreme threat to them. If they thought about Israel too long, they might feel they have to help Israel. Sure, they send them a few bucks now and then, but that is to relieve their conscienceses
. I live in Maine. Not many Jewish people up here. I know of none personally. All I know is what I hear on Jerusalem Post and read in the Bible. But, I am connected to Israel and the future. I am connected to the God of Israel. Okay, these are the ten reasons why U.S. Jews voted for OBAMA and why they do not like the word Israel.
Many, many U.S. Jews are well off with big bucks and big estates and big connections and extremly little persecution here in the U.S. For them to admit Israel exists, would cause them to feel they have to help Israel.
Sure, they send them a few bucks now and then, but that is to relieve their conscienceses. That way when they stand before God, they will be able to say they supported Israel”
From my response to that goy,youcan get the jest of what he is saying, after HIS JUDGEMENT OF JEWS BY GOING TO A XTIAN ,SORRY, I MEANT A ‘REFORM ‘TEMPLE’.
her complete blog if you please,TAMAR YONAH.
THE FOLLOWING IS MY POST I SUBMITTED AND  A FEW TALK BACKS IN RETURN
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THAT WAS FROM A XTIAN OBSERVATION OF JEWS.
HE IS DENTED.
I DO NOT KNOW ANY JEW IN NEW YORK THAT DOESNT KNOW JERUSALEM POST.
OR THE MOVIE FITNA.
I dont know any jew in any of my travels that doesnt LOVE ISRAEL OR TORAH OR THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL.
I KNOW PLENTY OF COMMUNITIES WHO WERE VERY AGAINST OBAMA,
SO ASK A XTIAN TO OBSERVE JEWS IS THE SAME AS GETTING A TORAH TRANSLATION WITH COMMENTARY AND INSIGHT.
THE VALUE IS –0-
TAMAR YONAH
THIS IS THE MANY PROBLEMS FROM THE NEW MOVEMENT OF BENIE NOAHIDE AND INTEFAITH DIALOGUES.
YOU SEE IT AS ENLIGHTENING OR EDUCATIONG THEM TO JUDAISM
I SEE IT AS BEING CORNERED AND DEFENDING TORAH AND JUDAISM..AND WHY SHOULD I CARE WHAT THEY THINK
TO USE RABBI TOVIA WORDS
WHAT DOES GD THINK ?
THANK YOU
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Dacon9, 55
How do I know I’m dented if you dont show me the evidence? Or would you rather I run around trying to tell you how wrong you are about redemtion and how you are blind to my man god messiah, LOL!
Ironically and thankfully Rabbi Singer does not have your attitude towards sharing the truth with dented persons ;-) ROB USA
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YOU HAVE TO TRUST ME,AM I NOT YOUR LIGHT.
I ALSO HAVE MY OWN MIND.i DONT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING RABBI TOVIA DOES.
NO ONE IS PERFECT.
not a Rabbi and not me.
you xtians want to be challeneged
If you agree with Rabbi Tovia, why then do you still call yourself or any xtian that agrees and admires Rabbi Tovia singer, why do you still call yourself a xtian?
if you xtians say that JEWS Are the light unto the nations,,why then do you challenge our scripture, our interpretation and out observance.
Do you really think that every xtian challeneging a JEW should be met?
you have 2.5 billion xtians all sayig jews are the light yet you all according to your own gospel have to convert us or perfect us..
AND THATS WHY I DONT AGREE with reaching out to you xtians.
you are to busy challenging us wth your intellect. many JEWS ARE TO BUSY IMPROVING THEIR OWN LIGHT
so you can see OUR LIGHT,
even from the hole that you lie.
IF YOU WANT TO LEARN. SIT DOWN AND LISTEN .
stop your missionary activities in ISRAEL. STOP YOUR POSYLETIZING ON EVERY STREET CORNER.STOP TRYING TO TELL US TO BE A ”PERCTED JEW AND ACCEPT YOUR DEAD mangod that you accuse us of killing
IF WE KILLD YOUR mangod,
WHY THEN ARENT YOU AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING TO JUDAISM to join the most powerful faith JUDAISM?
LISTEN ROB I TOOK YOUR BAIT AND WASTED TIME.
RE READ EVERYTHING I SAID ABOVE..AND DO IT .LIKE THE JEWS TOLD THE ”ONE GD OF ISRAEL AT MT SINAI”
”WE WILL DO”
If you dont do it then you are a fraud.
like paul said in your books..
lie to the jews if you can capture them..and you are….
NO THANKS,
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Dacon9,
Oh Brother!
You took my bait, and wasted time, BOY HOWDY!
ROB, USA
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GOOD GENTILES? DEAN IS CALLED GOOD?
NOW I KNOW I DONT BELONG IN THIS WORLD IF DEAN IS CONSIDERED GOOD.
TO ME HE IS CONSIDERED A FILTHY ANTISEMITE
LIKE ALLLL THE GOYEEM
WANT TO PERFECT THE JEWS BY BOWING TO JEUS..except the few benie noahide,, i said a few..and i can count the few..1,2,3,4,5,..thats it..all other benie noahides still have jeus..
THEY WEAR THEIR MASK ALL DAY..
AND JEWS FALL FOR IT…
JEWS SHOULD BE WITH JEWS
MASHIACH WILL HANDLE THE REST AT THE RIGHT TIME.
DEAN IS GOOD?
PRO ISRAEL?
YEAH PRO FOR JEUS
THATS THEIR DOCTRINE
I DONT ACCEPT IT.
I REJECT IT
KIRUV (reaching looking for ”lost jews” converting  goyeem to benie noahide) IS A CON JOB ON JEWS.
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DACON9
I have Christian neighbors who never brook the topic of religion with me. They seem to accept me for who and what I am. These Christians tend to judge others by their way of life, by their morals and ethics, rather than on the basis of what they believe or on the basis of what God of gods they believe in..
There are other Christians that believe I am blind, lost, etc. They believe “if” I do not accept Jesus as my personal savior before I die, I will experience eternal torment in a living hell. I guess you could call these Christians dogmatic, bigoted, even anti-Semitic.
On the other hand, I don’t know what my Muslim neighbors think of me. They’ve been fairly quiet other than I hear (anecdotally) that they believe in a Jewish world conspiracy and that Israel is an illegitimate state that humiliates and oppresses the Muslims living in Israel.
I cannot say at this juncture that my Christian neighbors want to kill me. I’m not sure about my Muslim neighbors.
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STEVIE,WAIT TIL THE LAST WAR WITH THE XTIANS..YOU’LL FEEL DIFF
STEVE..AINT NO GOOD XTIAN..
AS LONG AS IT TOOK AN UPROAR TO WAKE THIS POOP IN ROME TO GET THE BISHOP TO APOLOGIZE
an uproar FOR HIM TO KICK THE BISHOP OUT.
AND OLMERT AND ISRAEL APOLOGIZES FOR ANYTHIING TO THE POOP
AND NEW CHUERCHES BEINGBUILD FASTER THEN SHULS
AND YOU DEFEND THEIR PROSELYTIZING
AND YOU USE THE WORD ”THEY SEEM”,
AND ”rabbis” GO TO ROME WITH GIFTS,BOWING DOWN TO THAT POOP TO CELEBRATING WTH OUR MURDERES
AND rabbis travel around the world like yom kippor chickens LOOKING FOR LOST JEWS WHILE NEGLECTING **BORN** JEWS LYING IN THE STREETS ON DRUGS AND PROSTITUION..
THEY’LL NEVER BE A ”GOOD XTIAN”
THATS OXYMORON AS FAR
as I can understand.
when their church doctrine changes and everything else i posted above IN OTHER POSTINGS like stop converting us..and tear down your idols..STOP THE JEW4J MOVEMENT IN ISRAEL
then and only then i might consider if their is such a thing as a good xtian.but i keep remembering our prophets , soooo
the last war steve..look it up
its the last war that weighs who is good
Our prophets tell us who the last war is with.
by the way.
like we have a few bleeding heart liberals ,,of course the xtians have a few bleeding heart xtains..
some rabbis say that they were once jews, but lived generations as xtians ,,so they are not jews..stop believeing all these contrived situations to make a xtian a friend..
why do they send aid packages to israel with crosses and gospels insode the package.
In the end…
I need them to urinate on a statue and spit on jeus name …take a year of orthodoxy torah…thne have THEM [PREPARE AS RIGHTOUS GENTILES FOR MASHIACH.. WE DONT NEED POLLUTION TO JUDAISM..
WE NEED TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE NATION .
I DONT BUY INTO THE SCAM OF NOAHIDES AS A GENERALITY..ONLY AS THE RARE EXCEPTION.
CHAG SAMEACH
ohh one more thing, the xtian death is spiritualy which means your soul ends.
the muslim death is physical, which means you enter olam habah.
20% of jews left egypt they chose to follow moshe rabbeinu
the question you have to ask yourself is.
DO I WANT TO BE PART OF THE 80% THAT BOED TO GOATS AND DONKEYS AND SUNS AND MOONS
OR THE HOLY 20% THAT THE PONE GD OF ALL THINGS REVEALED HIMSELF TO?
why this is so difficult for jews to understand is amazing.
hey steve.black cloths that the euro jews wears..well that doesnt make you a jew..you can wear ARMANI and be a better JEW..
so dont think to be a jew that clothing is a requirment.Its repulsive,
the purpose of the black is for me alone..i take advantage of it ..when i see a black suited man with the long beard…i sddenly rememeber that I AM A JEW..
SO THE BLACK SUIT THAT IS REPULSIVE TO MANY..
KEEPS ME A JEW IN A SENSE, MY ANCESTORS WORE ROBES A STAFF AND WENT TO MARKET ON A CAMEL.
THEY STILL WEAR THAT IN BROOKLYN…and they tell stories of their family in syria or lebonan and egypt..
WHY ARE THEY ALL HERE IN AMERICAN IF THE ARABS WERE SO KIND ?
.WHY DO YOU NEED ME TO RANT ON AND ON..JUST LOOK AT ISRAEL JUST TODAY..HOW MANY ROCKETS?
WHY DO YOU BALANCE BETWEEN THE ARABS AND THE XTIANS…
AND NOT WITH G’D OF ISRAEL?
TAMAR doesnt post my email so I can’t continue this with you…
but the so called good xtians that email me… SORRY CHARLIE..AFTER I ACTIVELY PROBE THEIR INNER MINDS.
.nothing like i post here..
I am smarter then I show myself….
they eventually have the same goal..to convert me THE JEW..THEIR PRIZE, THEIR TROPHY..FIND JEWISH FRIENDS ASSOCIATE WITH JEWS…
remeber daniel perl..he lived as an outsider.story is he even married a goya..but in the end
HE SAID
”I AM A JEW”, MY MOTHER IS A JEW, MY FATHER IS A JEW, I AM A JEW.
YOU CANT REMEMBER THAT when you mix in the dark side…
BUT HASHEM IS THERE FOR US WHEN WE CRY TO HIM..
”I AM A JEW, HELP ME”
PRESERVE WHAT YOU HAVE,
DACON9
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Dacon #114: I have no illusions about Christianity.
Dacon, can you please be al little more consice. I will also try to be concise.
Jewish history and experience is on your side. The history of the Jews dispersed throughout Christendom has been one of persecution, blood libel, violence, murder, accusations of ritual murder, inquisitions, crusades and pogroms, ultimately leading to the Holocaust, which found nourishment in historic Christianity and church teaching from the pulpit, you are correct.
You said I defended proselytizing. I wrote nothing in defense of proselytizing. If I did I would appreciate a citation from you. There is no justification for Christian proselytizing of Jews. Most Jews rightly view proselytizing as an act of aggression.
When I wrote, they “seem” to accept me for who and what I am, you are correct, I did indeed write, they “seem” deliberately. I have asked some of these people and they tell me quite plainly, it is not for them to judge the disposition of my soul or of any person’s; this is God’s purview. There are also Christians who believe God judges us according to our behavior – our deeds, whether good or bad – contrary to the ruminations of Paul in the NT.
Beyond this Dacon may I ask you the following question? There were Christians, who for whatever reason – at the risk of their lives – saved Jews from the Nazis. There were those that saved Jews “plus nothing” to my knowledge. Not plus conversion. Not plus Jesus. They simply felt obligated to save Jews from murderers.
Do you condemn these Christians also?
Remember Dacon, God asked the prophet: “Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?”
These were not Christians Dacon. These were Israel’s mortal enemies. Nineveh was a mortal enemy of the Jews. Little doubt the prophet Jonah would have told you, these people (the people of Nineveh) were much worse than any Christians whom you do not trust. Only God had compassion on them. Why?
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DACON9 ANSWERS:
Steve you ‘seem’ to know ‘some’ history. Your argument is that G’D loves everybody from A to Z regardless of the evil they do. You didn’t mention from the book of Yonah
that G”D said they have to CHANGE their evil ways otherwise the city will be destroyed.
They did their repentance, they gave up their idols and walked IN THE WAY OF G’D , ONLY THEN DID G’D Take away the threat to destroy the city and the city did survive.
That is the point you failed to mention, intentionally ,unintentionally, this is the problem with supposedly learning any Torah in a chat room especially Arutz Sheva section ‘called torah for the nations, which isa compete distortion of Judaism and a fishing ground for missionaries. Back to the subject.
So it is true that G”D loves everyonebut “HE” deals with their actions as Judaism is based on rewardsand punishments .If the deeds are not up to par falling within the parameters of Torah for the Jews And within the parameters of the designated laws for the goyeem, the Noahide laws
, G”D gives warnings and if the people fail to heed those warnings, Hashem takes actions. The people that defy Hashem by converting Jews are WORSE THAN THE PEOPLE OF NINVEH. The people of Ninveh were the physical enemies of the Jews, they did not try to convert the Jews where as the xtians attemptto spiritually kill THROUGH THE ACT OF CONVERSION.
It says in the Chumash that if someone tries to seduce a Jews away from Hashem , you are forbidden to have any mercy on that person or the cityand that personor city should be annialated and everything in that city also must be burned.’’IR HA NEEDACHAT’’.
A CITY THAT HAS PUSHED PEOPLE AWAY FROM G’D .
G’D DOESN’T TOLERATE anyone tampering with ‘HIS’ TORAH. It says in the Gemara, the Chumash and the Talmud that a spiritual enemy is worse then the physical enemy. The xtians that try to be friendly with the Jews is likened to the snake that was friendly with ‘EVE’ AND BROUGHT DESTRUCTION TO THE WORLD.
The xtian doctrine to seduce Jews to convert and ‘’be perfected’ I include jews4j who are not Jews by xtians are the primeval serpent. These kinds of people prey on theJews that are searching for the path to Hashem instead lead these Jews to the path of destruction.
The prophet Yonah would disagree with you as he went to tell the people to serve G”D, to through away their idols and they did. If they did not throw away the idols they would have been destroyed.
Yes its correct that G”D Has compassion for his creatures and Yoha went out to warn them and if they still went against G”Ds will, then G’d would have no choiceand they would have been obliterate.
The Talmud says that when the Egyptians were drowning at the red sea the angels wanted to sing praises to GD that the Egyptians were drowning and ‘HE’ saved the Jews.GD said to the angels ‘’HOW CAN YOU SING SONGS OF PRAISES TO ME WHEN MY CREATURES ARE DROWNING. ‘GD’ loved his creatures but they were warned by the plagues and they didn’t listen ,they were so evil that they had to be destroyed..
POINT HERE: GD could’ve destroyed the Egyptianswith the first plague but in GDs mercy he gave them numerous warnings and you should know that it was 10 plagues but each plagues had many sub divisions to that particular plague.
MOSES AND AHARON WARNED THE PHAROAH THAT THEIR G’D WANTS THEM, THE JEWS, TO SERVE ‘HIM’ and pharaoh dismissed Moses and Aharon so therefore the Eyptians were punished. This section, other points,has many more deeper explanations such as his heart was hardened by Hashem, but you need to go to a Torah Orthodox Rabbi to get the full story.
The Egyptians still didn’t get the message that ISRAEL IS MY FIRST BORN AND I WILL NEVER ABANDONE MY FIRST BORN CHILD’, EVEN AFTER THE 10 PLAGUES.
This is the same as the xtians edom up until today., they don’t get that message either.
PART 2 COMING
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PT2 FROM DACON9:
STEVE ,PT2, peres invites the old ninveh
Look at Israel today. Peres acts as if he is still under roman rule. Peres invited a roman ruler poop , an idle worshipper, a organization that has killed us more then the arabs can ever hope to do. WHY? How insecure is peres that he needs the adulation of goyeem by inviting. Peres invited the spiritually unclean, who is barraging Jews with their lies deceptions and then conversions.  WHY?
.Like the arabs and the pharaoh during the plaques, the children of edom, the xtians today still refuse to accept the Jews as GDs chosen favorite nation, inspite of all the miracles performed for the JEWS ,inspite of their acknowledgement of the revelation, the giving of Torah at Mt Sinai, inspite of Israel having survived the xtians persecutions and attempted anniliation of Judaism, the xtians still want to rewrite and interprete
OUR TORAH FROM OUR HEBREW THAT HAS BEEN UNCHANGED,NOT A LETTER FOR 3500 YEARS. That’s a complete filthy disrespect for JEWS WORLD WIDE.
.WE should accept their out reached hand of friendship?
AND THEY KILL US WTH THEIR LEFT HAND STABBING US IN THE BACK.
The xtians want their mangod to be first born, but its quite clear the first born is JACOB ISRAEL. Going tit for tat, verses vs. verse is nonsense.
ISRAEL HAS AN UNBROKEN CHAIN OF WRITINGS AND BELIEF.
FROM  FATHER TO SON.
We have a truth and historical facts from archeology, FROM UNALTERED SCRIPTURES 2000 YEARS OLD.
They have a rewrite every few years still arguing where was this supposed man buried here or there or over there where its most likely he walked or that other place where the romans usually take their prisoners to him had to have said those things because he was a rabbi.
.THERE IS STILL NO EVEIDENCE HE EVEN EXISTED.
THATS A BLIND FAITH.FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES MAYBE?
AH HAH !  They acknowledge he was a rabbi therefore his supposed speeches were based on Judaism that he and after him altered from the original Hebrew.
.Their mangod is based on no witnesses, no writings except HE MUSTVE SAID THIS by his followers 100 years later and how many versions of what he must’ve said. So tell  me what was it he must’ve said if the other gospels don’t agree with your version of what he must’ve said.
Am I off on a tangent?
Tell me the difference between
muslims yelling allah akbar with
xtians that yell convert or die in the name of jeus?
To go back in a uturn, they go against the word of GD
Our prophets have told us their outcome in the end. They will perish except for the few righteous that follow the Noahide laws.
.They will not and cannot be accepted At the MOUNTAIN OF GD carrying crosses around their necks or in the hearts. That is contrary to G’Ds laws.
Today we have a separation of church and state.If we in America didn’t have this law, the xtians would still be saying convert or die in the name of jeus, so the xtians today do it in a more sophisticated way.
The xtians proselytize door to door, street corner to street corner, literature, videos putting in care packages to Israel and throughout the world.
. Every penny they donate has attachments like the virus on your computer when you open up the spam you get infected. The xtians have NO RESPECT FOR JEWS as long as they get ‘one’ they disregard their families pain and suffering.
.When a non Jew converts to Judaism, they must break off all contacts with their family who becomes their former family. No relationship with even their immediate family, who at the moment of completed conversion becomes their former family non existent.
If the conversion is done properly, They have a new soul accepted in the heavens as a JEW. If the conversion is don’t by reform or conservative, the heavens do not know any attachment to the NATION OF ISRAEL.
.Personally I attest to this story, A relative came to USA from Israel.A package was sent from Israel to them here in America. The package arrived opened and resealed, inside was in Hebrew, jeus literature and a cross stuffed in the package. Isolated incident? Sure, everything is an isolated incident if you like.I like to add to that…The package was addressed from Rabbi so and so to Rabbi so and so.
.I think so far I said plenty and I have a lot more to say. If this column continues and  Mrs Tamar Yonah lets it happen, I’ll say it on part3 or else also in my blog.
Jews should be cordial with non Jews, and that’s the limit…A SIMPLE CORDIAL RESPECT,AND NO OTHER ASSOCIATION, NEVER TO MIX IN YOUR HOME TO CONFUSE YOUR CHILDREN.
It would be the same thing as teaching the children not to lie, but when someone calls you, you tell your child to tell them you are not home..so how is that teaching not to lie..
By the way, if you visit my blog for the rest of the story, it is linked to return you right back to Tamar Yonahs blog.
.Thanks
DACON9
www.jewswithviews.com
incidently Steve, ask you Rabbi how many generations does it take for a convert to purge themselfs completely from their old ways? Most converts go fall back and on the way of their falling back they damage many jews along the way..
Thats another story I heard from Chabad Atlanta GA.
They had a ‘convert’ inviting guests from shul into her home and infact was introducing them to xtian belief.
eventually she was caught.
.I heard that from a aol chat room and 4 years later I met a Georgian in paltalk chat coming from the same town and she confirmed and gave more details. a handful of JEWS WAS LOST FOREVER
JUDAISM IS QUALITY, NEVER QUANTITY.DOESNT IT SAY WE WILL BE FEW IN NUMBERS?
SOOOOO?
FRIENDS WITH XTIANS?
NEVER.
THANKS
DACON9
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THE SUBJECT, HIS NAME IS ‘DEAN’
WRITES IN AS A TALKBACK THIS TIME NOT AS A WRITER OF THE ARTICLE
NOW SAYS THAT HE”MERELY WROTE WHAT WAS I HIS HEART, INNOCENTLY.
INNOCENTLY PASING JUDGEMENT ON JEWS HOW WE ACT AND CONDUCT OURSELF AND REACT TO THE ENVIORMENT.
.WELL INNOCENTLY JEWS REACTED TO HIS SUPPOSED ‘INNOCENCE’ AND ‘JUDGEMENT’.
.WE JEWS ACCORDING TO HIS ‘JUDGEMENT’, WERE CRUEL” AND HIS JUDGEMENT WAS ‘INNOCENT’ AND HE SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS RESPECTFUL BUT NOT WE JEWS THAT COUNTERED HIS DISRESPECT.
i BELIEVE THIS IS CALLED ARROGANCE HYPOCRISY DISRESPECT, WHAT ELSE CAN i CALL HIM.
HE STATED HE IS A STREET PREACHER FOR 25 YEARS AND NO ONE EVER CALLED HIM FILTHY, THE TALKBACKS WAS THE FIRST TIME, THAT WAS ME CALLING HIM A FILTHY XTIAN, I LOVE THAT DESCRIPTION..
.I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY SHECHEYANU FOR SOMETHING NEW OR DOES HE HAVE TO SAY IT? LOL
HE SAID HE IS NOT A ROMAN. DOES THIS MEAN THERE IS A ROMAN JEUS AND A XTIAN JEUS AND A GREEK JEUS?
YOU COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS ON THIS.
OK I’LL SPELL IT OUT. THEY ALLL BELIEVE IN JEUS AND ALL WANNA CONVERT THE JEW TO BE ”PERFECTED” OR BE ”SAVED”
LET THEM CALL THEMSELFS WHATEVER DENOMINATION THEY LIKE ITS ALL IDOLS AND GOING AGAINST THE SECOND COMMANDMENT.
.THIS XTIAN SAYS HE WOULD NEVER ENTER INTO MANY XTIAN CHURCHES BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEF. YEAH SO?
JUST ANOTHER OF HIS CON THAT WE SHOULD ACCEPT HIM THE XTIAN AS A GOOD HONEST XTIAN AND INVITE HIM TO SPEAK TO YOU.HE IS EVEN ASKING FOR A REGULAR COLUMN.WOE IS US JEWS IF ARUTZ SHEVA DOES THIS. AS IT IS A7 IS ON BORDERLINE OF BEING A JEWISH RIGHTWING NEWS SERVICE. i AM STARTING TO THINK OF A7 AS THE XTIAN NEWS SERVICE BECAUSE OF THAT NEW FEATURE THEY HAVE ‘TORAH OFR THE NATIONS’.NEXT WEEK MAYBE I’LL POST MORE OF THE MISSIONARY ATTEMPS TO ME FROM THAT SECTION.
.THE WRITER IN mRS TAMAR YONAHS BLOG IS A PROFESSIONAL MISSIONARY, A STREET PREACHER BY HIS OWN DESCIPTION, NEVER ACCEPT WHAT HE SAYS AS TRUTH, ANYTHING ‘CLOSE’ TO TRUTH IS CONSIDERED A COMPLETE LIE.
HE HAS TO ”SELL ” HIS BELIEFE AND CONVINCE YOU HE IS CORRECT. IF HE IS CORRECT THEN YOU THE JEW IS WRONG.
.SOME OF YOU READERS LIKE TO ENTER INTO DEBATES WITH THEM
I ask WHY?. iF YOU LOSE THE DEBATE BECAUSE HE IS MORE PERSUASIVE OR A BETTER ‘POKER PLAYER OR LIAR OF SCRIPTURE, OUR JEWISH SCRIPTURE, AND YOU HAPPENED TO NOT KNOW THAT VERSE, THEN HE WON THE ARGUMENT, AND YOU BECOME ,, YOU BECOME WRONG ?  HUH ? BECAUSE HE WAS A BETTER LAWYER THEN YOU? YES OJ SIMPSON IS INNOCENT.
.VERY FEW ARE CAPABLE OF DEBATING THESE PEOPLE. Rabbi Tovia Singer is an extrodinary and gifted man in this field.WE ARE NOT RABBI TOVIA. WE SHOULD NOT TRY TO BE RABBI TOVIA TO ENTER INTO THESE DEBATES, FOR MANY REASONS.
ANOTHER STORY.
THANKS , DACON9

ALL COMMENTS WELCOMED

pumpkin pie just saying hello to DACON9. i can’t believe i stumbled across this site and saw your name. i hope all is well with you, DACON9. happy hannukah! do you still visit ynet?

HELLO HELLO MY YNET DEBATER. YES I STILL SEND IN TO YNET AND ARUTZ AND HA ARETZ… BUT AS THE WORLD BECAME MORE FILLED WITH THE ACTIONS OF  THE EVIL AND  THE GOOD WAS LOOKED AT AS THE BAD…I BECAME STRONGER IN MY BELIEF OF TORAH AND TRUTH WHICH THE XTIAN WORLD  DENIES. THE XTIAN WORLD NEVER AND CANT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THE **FIRST BOOK** WHICH IS RIGHTFULLY CALLED ‘TORAH’ YET THEY CLAIM TO HAVE WRITTEN THE ** SECOND BOOK  OF A PERFECTED  VERSION , WHICH IS LUDRICOUS IF YOU CANT  GET TO STEP ONE.

The xtians say  they KNOW step 1. The Jews say ”NO YOU DONT”. Now if the xtians say that step 1 is the Torah and Jewish and the JEWS  say ”no you dont understand the torah properly and accurately”.   I would belive the original receivers of that very BOOK CALLED TORAH AND NOT THE ADULTERERS OF IT WHO ARE THE XTIANS..AND SO ynet and the others do not post my comments and writings as I offer them my own articles of such topics when they arise on the world front and then posted in their links.

PUMPKIN PIE, You are welcome to submit any position you like here. I will either post it as a comment or feature it as an article as you can see I have done  with other readers.

nice to see you again pumpkin pie. THIS IS THE CHANUKA SEASON where JEWS LIGHT UP THE DARKNESS.If the xtians can see that ..If the xtians can really practice what they supposedly learn that the jews *ARE THE LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS, then why arent they the xtians doing that by learning instead of attempting to DRAG THE JEWS INTO THEIR OWN IDOL mangod darkness???

dacon9, I really and truly meant to wish you a happy hannukah and didn’t intend to upset you with my Christianness or get into a debate with you. If Christians aren’t welcomed here, that is okay and I understand and don’t mean to intrude. I will just post this one time and then wait until maybe I see you on Ynet sometime (I hardly go there anymore, though.)
I will say that I think there is a lot of truth in what you say, and I also think that Christians really miss the mark in their approach to Jews. Too often, Christians are only interested in Jews if they think they can convert them, and when they realize they can’t, they give up and walk away in frustration. This is inexcusable. But not all Christians are like this, just most of them.
Judaism came first, and I think that Christians have much to learn from Jews. Instead of Christians telling Jews they need to believe in J-sus, we should instead learn about Jewish beliefs. Christians are very ignorant about the Torah, etc., and they do not at all understand the Jewishness of J-sus. In fact, there are Christians who don’t even realize Jesus was a Jew.
I met a woman who said she was going to Israel to try to save Jews. She may have meant well, but what she said sounded arrogant to me. I said, “Instead of going there to tell them what you believe, why don’t you ask what they believe instead?” She kind of gave me a dirty look.
I know that there are things that from a theological viewpoint you and I will disagree on, and I don’t want to try to convince you to think like me. And you know what? I think that God admires your steadfast upholding of your beliefs and He sees it as an act of obedience towards him. I also admire you for it.
And you know what else? I haven’t burned any pork chops since the last time we talked! (Truth be told, I don’t even eat pork.)
So nice to run into you again. Happy Hannukah. My warmest and best wishes to you, DACON9
pumpkin pie
(P.S. Is that really you who posted to me on this site? Since it’s not all in caps, I’m concerned it might be an imposter
___PUMPKIN..ALWAYS NICE TO SEE YOU..BUT … IT SEEMS THAT BEHIND EVERY FRIENDSHIP WITH A xtian..brings a sword in the other hand stabbing the Jew……so I cordially greet you with kindness….but a separation…especially during your holiday celebrating trees and ornaments and assorted puppets in a garden with sheep and lambs and straw and a baby.. oh yeah and a donkey…….lolol…what a rediculous scene to celebrate a myth…
 
if you go to the blog home page…scroll down a bit and see some more of the recent xtian attacks…I AM TIRED OF THE XTIANS..EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THE END GAME OF THE XTIANS..I KNOW THEY WILL PERISH..IN THE MEANTIME….I AM DISGUSTED  WITH THE XTIAN ATTEMPTS NOT TO SAVE THEMSELFS BUT TO CONVERT JEWS ON THEIR OWN WAY DOWN INTO THE PITS…
 
CAPS IN A BLOG WITH A MANY THOUGHTS  IS DIFFICULT TO FOCUS ONES EYES…ON CAPS…I USE CAPS NOW TO EMPHASIZE POINTS OR BREAK UP THE MONOTONY OF ALL ONE  FONT…
 
A XTIAN CAN EAT PORK..A NON JEW ONLY HAS 7 LAWS TO FOLLOW..THE ‘NOAHIDE LAWS”.
I WOULD LOVE YOU TO WRITE AN ARTICLE BASED ON WHAT YOUR COMMENTS SAY.
 
YOU ARE VERY FRESH TO READ .PLEASE DO SO…LOOKING FOWARD TO YOUR DEEPER OPINIONS AND WHAT YOUR CHURCH TEACHES VS WHAT YOU FOUND TO BE TRUE AND NOT TRUE…
 
THANK YOU.
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  • 1 pumpkin pie // Dec 13, 2009 at 2:47 am

    just saying hello to DACON9. i can’t believe i stumbled across this site and saw your name. i hope all is well with you, DACON9. happy hannukah! do you still visit ynet?

    pumpkin

  • 2 pumpkin pie // Dec 13, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    dacon9, I really and truly meant to wish you a happy hannukah and didn’t intend to upset you with my Christianness or get into a debate with you. If Christians aren’t welcomed here, that is okay and I understand and don’t mean to intrude. I will just post this one time and then wait until maybe I see you on Ynet sometime (I hardly go there anymore, though.)

    I will say that I think there is a lot of truth in what you say, and I also think that Christians really miss the mark in their approach to Jews. Too often, Christians are only interested in Jews if they think they can convert them, and when they realize they can’t, they give up and walk away in frustration. This is inexcusable. But not all Christians are like this, just most of them.

    Judaism came first, and I think that Christians have much to learn from Jews. Instead of Christians telling Jews they need to believe in J-sus, we should instead learn about Jewish beliefs. Christians are very ignorant about the Torah, etc., and they do not at all understand the Jewishness of J-sus. In fact, there are Christians who don’t even realize Jesus was a Jew.

    I met a woman who said she was going to Israel to try to save Jews. She may have meant well, but what she said sounded arrogant to me. I said, “Instead of going there to tell them what you believe, why don’t you ask what they believe instead?” She kind of gave me a dirty look.

    I know that there are things that from a theological viewpoint you and I will disagree on, and I don’t want to try to convince you to think like me. And you know what? I think that God admires your steadfast upholding of your beliefs and He sees it as an act of obedience towards him. I also admire you for it.

    And you know what else? I haven’t burned any pork chops since the last time we talked! :-) (Truth be told, I don’t even eat pork.)

    So nice to run into you again. Happy Hannukah. My warmest and best wishes to you, DACON9

    pumpkin pie

    (P.S. Is that really you who posted to me on this site? Since it’s not all in caps, I’m concerned it might be an imposter :-)

  • 3 Mishnah // Dec 14, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    A RESPONSE TO: ROB-USA.
    I can see by your post and quote.Rob-usa- “How do I know I’m dented if you dont show me the evidence?..end quote…That your not the type of person who would take my advice when I tell you you are living in some kind of fantasy world. A very sad dillusional existence.. so I will keep my business with the next two statements you posted one being, Rob-usa quote:”Or would you rather I run around trying to tell you how wrong you are about redemtion and how you are blind to my man god messiah, LOL..end quote..I would like to thank you for realizing that we are blind to your , ‘man-god-messiah’.Which; our GD Hashem and, Torah commands us to do…Dacon9 is doing his commanded duty by the Torah and Hashem. AND, all other jews to do so…and to curse all other gods. They are foreign to us..We must be blind , deaf , and, mute to them… SO STOP TRYING TO PROSELATYZE US…Rob-usa sadly what YOU ARE blind to is the thousands of years by ‘your people’:(the xtians), MURDERING AND KILLING US JEWS, THE TORTURE, THE POGRAMS, BLOOD LIBELS, THE ANTISEMITISM, TRYING TO CRUSH EVERYTHING WE BELIEVE AND REPRESENT..ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC… TO ALL THESE THINGS, AND MANY MORE, YOU ROB-USA AND EVERY SINGLE XTIAN LIKE YOU ARE BLIND TO……….
    Your next statement which I left for last due to me not being able to contain myself from laughter from it.. Rob-usa/quote,”..Ironically and thankfully Rabbi Singer does not have your attitude towards sharing the truth with dented persons..end quote….. I ACTUALLY COULDNT BELIEVE YOU USED TOVIA SINGER AS YOUR “RELIABLE AND TRUSTED SOURCE…LOLHAHAHA…THATS RATHER HYSTERICAL…THEN AGAIN IM DEALING WITH A NO BRAINER NAMED ROB-USA…LOL…TOVIA SINGER IS A PERSON WHO IS WRONG IN MANY SERIOUS THINGS: HIS UNTRUTHFULNESS, HIS LOSHON HARA AND MOTZI SHEM RA AND ,MOCKERY OF SAGES AND RABBONIM PUBLICLY.,HIS FAILURE TO CONFRONT AND CONTROL HIS YETZER HARA… HIS FAILURE TO CONFRONT AND RESOLVE AN ACCUSATION FROM ANOTHER JEW REGARDING HIS QUESTIONABLE BEHAVIORS WHICH CAN INCUR NEGATIVE EFFECT ON OTHER JEWS.. FAILURE TO SAY AN APPROPRIATE APOLOGY TO SAID DAMAGED JEWS..ETC ETC ETC ETC..EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE LISTED VERY SERIOUS IN NATURE AND WILL BRING CONSEQUENCES TO BE PAID BY TOVIA SINGER………HASHEM DECIDE UPON I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR TOVIA SINGER (ROB-USA’S RELIABLE SOURCE:)……In Judaism all human beings are believed to have free will and can choose the path in life that they will take. It does not teach that choosing good is impossible – only at times more difficult. There is almost always a “way back” if a person wills it. (Although texts mention certain categories for whom the way back will be exceedingly hard, such as the slanderer, the habitual gossip, and the malicious person)……

  • 4 Mishnah // Dec 14, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    TO :TOVIA SINGER AND JEREMY GIMPEL……In Judaism all human beings are believed to have free will and can choose the path in life that they will take. It does not teach that choosing good is impossible – only at times more difficult. There is almost always a “way back” if a person wills it. (Although texts mention certain categories for whom the way back will be exceedingly hard, such as the slanderer, the habitual gossip, and the malicious person)…

  • 5 pumpkin pie // Dec 15, 2009 at 12:00 am

    Dear Dacon9,

    I really did not intend to post here again as I don’t want to intrude here; however, it was nice of you to say what you said and I am honored that you want to hear more from me, so I can’t ignore that.

    I’m bit leery of saying more than I had already said, though. For one thing, I don’t want to cause arguments, and I’m afraid of being misunderstood.

    I would like Christians to leave Jews alone as far as the whole conversion thing goes. I think it causes hard feelings, and it is disrespectful for a Christian who doesn’t even understand Jewish beliefs to come along and tell a Jew that they are wrong. When you couple that ignorance with a very disgraceful history of Christian persecution of Jews, it’s no wonder that many Jews are very skeptical of us. I’m somewhat amazed that a Jew will even speak to a Christian.

    The problem is that Christians don’t really know much about Judaism except that Jews don’t accept Jesus as the Messiah. But other than that, they are pretty much ignorant and would be hard pressed to tell you anything else other than maybe Jews aren’t supposed to eat pork.

    I would like to see more Christians offer Jews unconditional love and support instead of only being interested in them to convert them. I also would like to see Christians try to understand Judaism more instead of just thinking that Jews are condemned to hell because they don’t believe in Jesus.

    You asked what my church teaches vs. what I have found to be true. Well, that’s a very heavy question and really I would need to write a book to anwer. But a few things I believe where i part ways with most other Christians is that I do not believe Jews are condemned to hell for not believing in Jesus. and I do not believe that God is “done” with the Jews and that Christians have replaced them as the apple of G-d’s eye.

    I believe that Christians have a duty to G-d to protect and support Jews, that we must pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and that God will bless those who bless his people, the Jews.

    I also believe in Jesus, and you don’t, and there we will just have to agree to disagree.

    I believe that the existence of Jews on this earth proves that G-d exists and it proves that God has not abandoned the Jews. Look at all Jews have gone through in their history: slavery, wars, diaspora, pogroms, persecution, the Holocaust. AND YET THEY ARE STILL HERE as a unique people with a unique culture, even though still scattered all over the world. No other people could go through so much and still retain their identity. But Jews have done it. It proves Gd’s very existence.

    I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences with Christians and find that their friendship seems to come with a knife. And while we Christians do have a lot of atoning to do, I do believe it is important to acknowledge the too-few Christians who have been friends to Jews even when it cost them greatly (for instance Corrie ten Boom and her father and sister, or Diet Emon) and who did so with no ulterior motive but only as an act of obedience and love towards G-d.

    Thank you for listening.

  • 6 JDL // Jul 5, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    I just left a chat room on Paltalk that I have been visting for awhile. The real feelings came out from these so called Conservative Christians. The conversation was in regards to the Black Panthers situation in standing outside voting booths with clubs intimidating voters. I mentioned let them try that in a Jewish Community. I was attacked by a gentleman saying the Jewish Community overwhelmingly voted for Obama and put him in the White House and the Jews will not do a damn thing to Obama’s thugs due to the Jewish Support of Obama. I told the room I was not going to be abused by this person ( whom happens to be a room regular and Black). I also mentioned the fact is these thugs wanted to start up this crap in the Jewish Communities the JDL as a group would grow strong again to deal with this issue. I went in under another nic and the room guest were asking questions on why the Jews keep supporting the Democratic Party since the Republicans are more supportive of Israel in both money and prayers and general support. I have to say that support always comes with a noose and if you do not toll the line the noose gets tighter and if too tight…You will die..Wake up Jewish People.

  • 7 Yhon Jetley Marks // Dec 22, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Goodness me there is some harsh and unfair talk going on here. I am an ex xtain and due to HaShem being very gracious to me, I saw the foolishness of xtianity and the appalling ‘Not Testament’. I am an observant Noahide and follow the G-d of Israel as my G-d. There are many decent xtians who have absolutely no idea they are deceived – they don’t need to be criticised in such a harsh way. The Jews were called to be a Light to the World and lead through the Torah. It is only since I have seen what a ridicules religion xtianity is, that I have been able to grasp there is only One G-d and not 3 in 1. Xtianity is the biggest fraud ever sold to mankind. And the Not Testament is utterly anti-semetic and has caused such problem for the Jews. But most xtians do not know this. The more that the Rabbi’s teach the gentiles about the Noahide Laws, the more perfect the world will get. There is only 2 sorts of people in this world, Jews and Noahides …. I through great blessing am a observant Noahide, and hope to see many of other man inspired religions see their error and acknowledge the true G-d of Israel, repent and follow the laws that we were called too.

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