Jews With Views

DEBATE WITH XTIAN YNET READER:

DACON9 COMMENTS TO YNET NEWS’

BRAVO WESTERN WALL RABBI FOR INSISTING IF THIS POOP WALKS THE KOTEL HE MUST REMOVE ALL RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS,att avrum, the conservative rabbi you quote says religious are sick people and observant are ancient.HE IS NOT A RABBI, HE IS A WALKING POT OF SIN.

LISA COMMENTS:

the Pope is coming for a short VISIT, for crying out loud, this is not a crusade- what are you people so afraid of? Bad things happened in the past- we all agree- do you think these TB’s serve any purpose except spread hatred and poison? All the tourists visiting Jerusalem? How about them? And why critisize the Pope’s attire? Should we Christians make fun of your black hats, beards and clothes? Of course that would be ‘anti-semitism’…..and that is a no-no. Funny, the worst TB discussions always happen to be on a Shabbat

DACON9

.  #31, 2nd COMMANDMENT. NO OTHER gods OR symbols BEFORE ‘ME’
a cross is a symbol your poop is a symbol of nazism ALONG WITH your jeus as a symbol >of spanish inquisition >pogroms , >die in the name of jeus >hitler and > constant missionary work to convert JEWS   You YOUR church and all followers of jeus doctrine is to convert JEW. WE JEWS ARE YOUR TROPHY. YOU KNOW IT AND WE KNOW IT YOU ARE against JUDAISM.   LOL, BECAUSE YOU LOVE US   THATS WHY ! ________________ LISA SAYS: I am amazed at your list: cross, pope, nazis, Jesus… all in one breath. you would be surprised at how little conversion is attempted- this is in your mind DACON9-. You see anti-semitism everywhere. And what exactly does this visit have to do with the Nazis- they were a German political party- not a church- . I don’t buy any of your arguments- they are no-brainers. ______________ LUIZ FELIPE COMMENTS TO JEWS As a friend of the Jewish people, I am very sad because of so many insults, and disregards, to the Chief of our Catholic Church. Respect is good and we like it. God is unique. Radicalism and intolerance are awful. Think about it.  Luiz Felipe Haddad _____________ .DACON9 LOADING UP:  lisa you do not know jewish history           before you comment read and learn   your poop ate with hitler many times best buddies your poop hid stolen jewish atifacs for the nazis 70% 0f nazis were roman catholics. your poop helped 80,000 nazis escape including mengele the angel of death escape missionaries are rampant where ever there are jews. jews 4jeus have a 30 millin $$usd budget in israel alone to convert jews. every major church has a committee of missionaries to proselytize jews.   you dont know your history, or our history   you are ignorant to history past and present, why are you even in a jewish news site what is your purpose.? Examing how we ‘behave’? CRITIZING IF WE DONT REACT ACCORDING TO your church expectations?   I know you love jews…  ___________

BEN GETS INTO IT:

Lisa  

     

 

Yes Lisa, our POV’s are always no-brainers. Unfortunately we are still the ones whose families, friends, etc. are the ones who have been murdered, beaten, abused by the crusaders, the spanish inquisitors, the nazis and of course their willing accomplices.

As far as conversion demands, if we don’t convert we are told we won’t go to heaven. Gee whiz, guess we will have to meet up with those gentle people who murdered our families where-ever they happen to be residing at this late date.

Lisa, unfortunately you haven’t got a clue to the reality of Christianity’s hatred towards the Jew. You have called us Christ-killers from the year one and have attempted to destroy or convert us for the eons since then.

Spare us your nonsense. The truth is painfully obvious, and it certainly is not the hokum you post.

 

 Ben ,   Monroe USA  

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LISA THE XTIAN PICKED UP HER SWORD AND SHIELD;

 

don’t know history?  

     

 

you are wrong:

Lisa happens to know a great deal about Jewish history- .

My point is: your arguments are valid to a point, however… there have been changes- people change, the church has changed- the teachings have changed- the attitudes have changed- you still quote the past.. We have argued over this ad nauseum on TB- .

The church, the people, the Christians have apologized, tried to make amends, reimbursed etc. of course it does not make a wrong right- and it does not bring back the dead- we know, you know- and you keep repeating it over and over.

We understand, I understand-

but you really think the world will EVER be a better place, children will have a better understanding, if all we get is rejection, reproaches, old history?

Europeans learn about the Holocaust in school, there is zero tolerance on Anti-semitism, racism…. people go to jail etc. for spreading hatred. Vicious and derogatory comments like the ones published on Ynet TB would never be allowed in most countries in Europe-

But, by your own admission, you are not willing to accept apologies of ordinary people, heads of state, leaders of churches….. an eye for an eye- forever.

You want apologies, reimbursements, returns of treasures, etc. how far back? Day One? Middle Ages?

Or, do you just want to be left alone in your island within a hostile neighborhood?

You want recognition, acceptance, support, for Israel- ?

Don’t you think it would be a generous gesture to let the head of a church whose ‘founder’ was born a Jew, living in Jerusalem, visit for a day?

I am sure the Pope (he is called Pope, not poop) does not want you to miss your daily prayers at the Wall… no need to start a demonstration over it….

There are other religions besides Judaism, you believe yours is the true religion? Good for you. Other people believe too…..

As for conversions: I don’t know where you get your numbers…. I have never heard of this. Which religion are you talking about? Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons?

 

 Lisa ,   Switzerland  

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LISA IS NOT HAPPY WITH ME . LISA IS TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE jews4jeus from her church: 

she offers me a wikapedia translation of that xtian organization. All jeus lovers, followers of the magician, ARE THE SAME , STILL A IDOL WORSHIPPER ,whether called romans or catholics, j’witnesses, xtians or whatever…They are still  XTIAN zombies ,,bowing to a mangod and assorted idols, hypnotized by a con job 1,500 years after JUDAISM ,,,,even  more  of a con then the the democratic party propping up our present president.

 

LISA SAYS:

 I just knew there was something wrong with your argument….DACON9…

Jews for Jesus- is NOT a Catholic organisation, far from it… it is an Evangelical, some say Jewish organisation based in San Francisco..

so please, before you vilify anybody, get your facts straight.

by the way, what makes you think I LOVE JEWS?

I love a Jew- big difference, LOL

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DACON9 SUBMITTED A REPLY TO YNET BUT MOST TIMES YNET CENSORS DACON9, 2 hours later and this response is still not posted:

 

YOUR TIRADE SHOWS YOUR HATE

YOUR POOP REPRESENTS THE BIGGEST XTIAN CHURCH.you can call yourself catholics or xtians or jews4jeus, its all the same idol worship.because you dont recognize my numbers or my arguements you dont accept them,

well lady JEWS dont accept your churches evils that continues ,reparations, many can be done, but your poop and ones before him refuses.

 

YOU FOLLOW A DEAD MAN

THAT his own commmunity excommunicated him for being rebellious and a practitioner of black magic, not miracles.

When you say jeus was a jew, No we cant even say his name for his sins he did and caused.

you follow the worst of the worst.

 

and now you follow your “poop” that still encourages proselytizing.

 

you know nothing

your hate for us is overwhelming.

your imposition of your belief and your ideology of your belief and what you want, or actually ” insist” we follow from you,

 is overwhelmingly evil.

 

when you cease all missionizing to Jews, i will reconsider your apology.

as of now,

you shake our hand with your right and kill us with your left.

 

the debate is over.

I will not respond your your bigotted answers any longer

I AM A JEW AND I AM ALLOWED TO HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT MY JUDAISM ABOUT MY NATION.

 

YOU ARE NOT…

 

OR ELSE YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY THE SAME RULER TIMES 10,

 IN THE HEAVENS AND WOE IS YOU IF YOU ARE JUDGED BY THAT RULER.

 

RABBI DACON9

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he RABBI
	just in case you read this , dear Rabbi, you are barking up the wrong tree: I am none of the things you are accusing me of- you are WRONG… I have nothing to do with the Pope, with JewsforYou, with the Nazis, etc. etc… there is no point to argue with a person who finds fault with everything- and accuses everyone of hate. I wish you peace- in your own little and confined world- Lisa		Lisa ,   switzerland

 

 

BEN WITH HIS ARGUMENT IS CORRECT:

Liberate the holy land???  

     

 Ah yes Isaiah, liberate the holy land at the expense of how many Jewish lives? The crusades were a precursor to the variety of Christian murders of Jews.

Let’s not dress the pope up in the robes of an angel or a Christian saint. His actions and words certainly paint him otherwise.

Hostility and acrimony? You betcha.

The Kotel has been abused before and needs no further abuse. While I see no reason for any harm to come to the pope while he is a guest in Israel, I see no reason why those who wish to pray at the Kotel be denied. From 1948 to 1967 we were denied. Never again.

 

 

Ben ,   Monroe

 

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 ISAIAH COMMENTS ON SAME ARTICLE:

I am well aware that Yizkor ( prayer )  began during the crusades in memory of the many kehillohs in Germany that were wiped out. My point is only that Christians also venerate the Holy Land. Today’s pope and his pedecessor and John XXIII are different from Pius XII and earlier popes. There is no need for so much hostility

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THE BRILLIANT FANTASTIC ‘DACON9′ NOW NOMINATED FOR OFFICIAL ‘ RABBI’ SAYS:

CHAG KASHER PESACH

ISAIAH:

BUT I HAVENT MET ANY IN MY CIRCLE OF TORAH  JEWS  

THAT WOULD SAY THIS POOP IS ANY DIFFERENT

THE HOSTILITY IS FROM YEARS OF CONSISTANT PERSECUTION IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER
AND MANY OF US ARE FED UP PLAYING DEFENCE WITH THE CHILDREN OF ESAU , EDOM.ROME TODAYS JEUS FOLLOWS..
WE ARE FED UP BEING DEFENSIVE

ESPECIALLY FROM OUR OWN NATION SAYING TOLERANCE.

WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO BE A XTIANS DOOR MAT OR TO LISTEN

TORAH SAYS TO SEPEARTE YET HOW MANY INVITE THE XTIANS TO THEIR SEDER?
WHY?
ONE OF THE HOLIEST NIGHTS  WHEN THE ESSENCE, SHECHEENA ,OF HASHEM IS BEAMING DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS TO THE CENTER OF YOUR TABLE, WHEN ELIYAHU HA NAVI ENTERS YOUR HOME,WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SPEAK TO YOUR CHILDREN TO REMEMBER ...
AND THERE ARE JEWS THAT WANT TO ENTERTAIN THE GOYEEM.then they wonder why ,,chas ve shalom, their children married  goyeem.

THEY CANT TOUCH THE WINE
its forbidden
and its inevitable that the xtians will introduce the subject of their mangod for comparativeness to their easter...

THIS POOP AND ALL PAST AND IF A FUTURE,
 WILL NOT UNDERSTAND.

IF THEY DID UNDERSTAND,
THERE  WOULD NOT BE A CHURCH OR A POOP OR A XTIAN.. .
THEY WOULD BE NOAHIDES...
THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE 2nd COMMANDMENT EXPLICITLY.
THEY DONT.

IF THIS POOP INSISTS ON WEARING HIS CROSS
THEN YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE HE DISRESPECTS THE ''NATION OF ISRAEL''
THE G'D OF ISRAEL AND ALL THINGS AND ALL JEWS EVERYWHERE.

TOLERANCE MEANS A CORDIAL HELLO AND GOODBYE.
THATS IT

JEWS AND ISRAEL OWES NOTHING TO THE OTHER NATIONS EXCEPT A CORDIAL SMILE AND GOODBYE.

if they want to learn, they will listen to  our light, they will see it
and know it

 if they want to preach , they will speak compare and retort..

how many goyeem did you ever meet that listened and learned?

improve yourself
is what most Torah  emett  shuls tell you. This would be the antidote against all their tumah they brought upon the world.

I WRITE HEBREW PHONETICALLY WITH the sephardic accent,
 in case you dont understand me.....

THEY ALL wanna be my friend, ”JUST FRIENDS”.

 and they all wanna change us JEWS to their image of what a JEW should be like.