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June 27th, 2009 · 7 Comments

JULY 12, 2009
I could live like this
until I see lovers walking and  laughing
holding hands
 
I could live like this
Walking through life
I still breathe and eat
don’t I?
Nothing is different
Even if I don’t laugh or love
I could live like this
 
Look at the silly people
Sneaking kisses in the park
By the tree over there
Sharing ice cream on the hot day
Life is happy for them
 it seems life was made for them
 but I could live like this
But I could live like this
I don’t  have memories
to cry  for
I exist for the day
That’s wonderful for me
Its ok isn’t it?
 
Until I see
Lovers walking and  laughing
and holding hands
I could live like this
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JULY 01,2009
and she asked,
What would he be like, loving him,loving me,
I answered her friend….
.
‘’she would not be able to hold  my love,
would I  be to much , would I be to easy…
 lovers give worlds and gardens,
 moons and  stars,
 I  give only 2 roses….
 wrapped in delicate white  baby breaths,
 simple and honest…
.
would she recognize my love…being so simple
would she see me
in this crazy  world
 
lying in the sun on a Saturday lazy afternoon I opened my eyes
 the flowers bending softly from the summers breeze
the baby birds chirping for their food
the fragrance of lilacs growing   nearby
the powerful warm sun or is that my heart
I would be all of these
 
as the sun leaves  to brighten another world
I suddenly felt  the stillness  and silence around me
the question ….and the answer
made me realize..
as it started to rain…
I am alone


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with love, David
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talkback ‘GIRLZ 4 ROSES’ replies;

Sometimes I wanted to cry…
.
for the Love, the Touch
and all of the Words you sighed.
 “Somehow, I guess I just knew…….
.
but I didnt know
 I’d love you so much,…….
but, I do”….
.
 Sometimes I’d stay up all night……
Wishing to GD
 you loved  ‘Me… with all your might……
Sometimes…….
 theres not enough…..Time”.
.
and I  didnt know ,
I’d love you so much……..
but  I do…….. …
.
”AND”…..
We will always have  each other
 in our time of need…..
.
youre the world ……………………..
to ME.
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FROM, GIRLZ 4 ROSES:
 
BECAUSE OF THE FRIENDSHIP THAT YOU GAVE,..
 HAS TAUGHT ME TO BE BRAVE..
NO MATTER WHERE I GO,I’LL NEVER FIND ANOTHER PRIZE., …
THOUGH YOURE MILES AND MILES AWAY….
I SEE YOU EVERYDAY.,
I DONT HAVE TO TRY….
I JUST CLOSE MY EYES…
WE WILL ALWAYS BE TOGETHER.,,
,HOWEVER FAR IT SEEMS….
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GIRLS 4 ROSES CONTINUES:

LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…

LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…

DOO DOO DIN DOO…AAHHH!….YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!..

”NOW I FEEL FULLY ADJUSTED …
TO FACE AN BEAUTIFUUUL DAY, THANKS TO H
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MY ANSWERS:

TO:  GIRLS 4 ROSES

Your reply was cut off.. Would you finish it for us:

AND…..

WOULD YOU TELL ME WHO YOU ARE?

IT SEEMS  WE KNOW EACH OTHER

IS IT THIS WORLD OR THE NEXT

 I WANT TO LOVE YOU

WHO ARE YOU

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AND GIRZ 4 ROSES  REPLIES:

LA LA LA LA LA..LA LA LA LA LA .. LA LA LA LA LA..LA LA LA LA LA..LA LA LA LA LA….”DOO DOO DIN DOO” AAHHH!..HAVE A BEAUTIFUUUUL DAY..COURTESY OF: H . YESSSS
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SOME ONE FILL IN THE SPACES..
LOVE SHOULD NEVER END………………..

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Filling in the spces>>SOME ONE FILL IN THE SPACES..
LOVE SHOULD NEVER END………………..

Your unexpected love. Captivating and lovely to my mind,
At first, I never cared who you were
Now I don’t know who I am without you,
You kissed me
I felt my world change,
You held me
I heard my heart awaken,
You loved me
And my soul was born anew
You have touched my heart
Now my heart knows who you are
And with every breath
And every step
I take down lonely roads,
Your hand is my staff
Your voice is my guide
Your strength my shelter
You’re passion my awakening.
You walked lovingly into my life,
And all my pain
You took as your own,
And all my fears
You cast into the sea,
All my doubt
Lost in your eyes,
You walked into my life
And no matter if you choose to stay or go,
My life is forever changed,
Just because you loved me
For a moment in time.
And because I choose
To love you
For the rest of mine…………………………………..Love never ends…

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DOES LOVE EVER END
OR IS IT A NEW BEGINING,
WHISPER IN MYEAR
TELL ME

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july 16, 2009

from: luvpoetic

…………………………..That Morning Whisper,

” You leave me wanting nothing more than, wanting more of you”……………

A suspended moment of perfect Bliss…………….

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7 responses so far ↓

  • 1 GIRLZ 4 ROSES DEVINE // Jun 28, 2009 at 2:27 am

    ………Sometimes I wanted to cry…for the Love,the Touch and all of the Words you sighed. “Somehow, I guess i just knew…….but, I didnt know id love you so much,…….but, I do”…. Sometimes id stay up all night……Wishing to GD you loved ‘Me with all your might…… Sometimes……. theres not enough…..Time”. didnt know Id love you so much……..but. I do…….. …”AND”….. , We will always have eachother in our time of need…..youre the world to……………………..ME.

  • 2 GIRLZ 4 ROSES // Jun 30, 2009 at 7:13 am

    LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…LA LA LA LA LA…DOO DOO DIN DOO…AAHHH!….YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!..”NOW I FEEL FULLY ADJUSTED …TO FACE AN BEAUTIFUUUL DAY, THANKS TO H

  • 3 GIRLZ FOR ROSES // Jun 30, 2009 at 7:17 am

    BECAUSE OF THE FRIENDSHIP THAT YOU GAVE,.. HAS TAUGHT ME TO BE BRAVE..NO MATTER WHERE I GO,I’LL NEVER FIND ANOTHER PRIZE., …THOUGH YOURE MILES AND MILES AWAY….I SEE YOU EVERYDAY., I DONT HAVE TO TRY….I JUST CLOSE MY EYES…WE WILL ALWAYS BE TOGETHER.,,,HOWEVER FAR IT SEEMS…..

  • 4 GIRLZ FOR ROSES // Jun 30, 2009 at 7:43 am

    LA LA LA LA LA..LA LA LA LA LA .. LA LA LA LA LA..LA LA LA LA LA..LA LA LA LA LA….”DOO DOO DIN DOO” AAHHH!..HAVE A BEAUTIFUUUUL DAY..COURTESY OF: H . YESSSS!

  • 5 Mishnah // Jul 6, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Guide to the sexist groom? extremely sexist brochures handed out to future grooms as part of religious councils course on marriage. An instructional brouchure handed out to grooms to be, by the Jerusalem religious council. The brouchure was distributed to future grooms , both religious and secular as a compulary class on marriage given at the council’s offices. according to and suggested in the brochure ,while it seems like the brochure aims to encourage husbands to respect their wives and help them with the househols chores. Some of the recomendations included are questionable: “Don’t let a day go by without complimenting your wife at least five times”. Say it even if it’s a lie . A woman who hasn’t been complimented ,”is like a fish out of water”. the brochure reads . The writers also recomend the couple stays away from the woman’s parents.Because Mother-in-laws tend to meddle in a couple’s affairs and can ruin a relationship. In another section , the leaflet argues that the “woman” is like clay’ .The husband can shape and mold her as he pleases. because, it’s in her nature to help the husband , all that’s needed is a kind word. but, later warns the husband must not become spineless ‘ if she is dissrespectful to you?, you must not give in ” you can get angry and stop talking to her until she realizes she was wrong”. I feel it is important to try and understand why it was suggested to lie to your spouse. Now before continuing I want you to know I disagree 100% and in fact I believe the opposite is true. One must tell the truth even if it isn’t what your spouse wants to hear. This maintains trust which is the foundation to any relationship, let alone your wife/husband. Now to gemara: Ketuvos 16b-17a

    In gemara there is a discussion between the house of Hillel and Shammai about what to say when describing the bride at chuppah. Shammai’s House says describe her “as she is” where as Hillel’s house argues “beautiful and graceful”. Shammai’s side asks Hillels if we should describe a blind and lame bride as “beautiful and graceful”; then cites shemot 23:7 “stay far from untruth” as support. Hillel’s House responds “if one has made a bad purchase in the market, should one praise it in his eyes or depreciate it? Without doubt, one should praise it in his eyes.” The sages then rule with Hillels House stating that the disposition of man should be pleasant with people.

    Now the apikorsim use this example in gemara as a way to justify their changing of Torah to fit the ways of the world. They say that everyday experiences can trump Torah law/teachings/reasoning. And at first look you might say they have a point, after all the House of Hillel didn’t defeat Shammai with a Torah verse.

    However, this is incorrect and in fact we see that Hillel defeated Shammai using Torah law of loshan hara. Would it not be loshan hara to remind a woman she is not beautiful in front of the community on her wedding day? Would it not be loshan hara to tell someone in public there purchase was not good/prudent etc?

    Where the authors of the marriage pamphlet were wrong was that they applied this principle between spouses in the company of their home. In no way ever and I mean ever do I want to lie to my husband, let alone in our house. But if my husband is in public and he is happy about a purchase I will not shed his bood in public if I don’t agree/like the purchase. At home I would speak to him with the utmost respect and sincere love, explaining to him my feelings on the matter.

    Another issue I wanted to speak about was the idea that the Torah doesn’t prohibit Toevah marriages because the Torah is silent on Lesbians. Recently in treyfa paltalk rooms I have heard this being spoken by people who call themselves frum yidden. While being in a treyf room is the first problem the second is the false teachings they are spreading. It’s obvious that the only reason this is even being discussed is because the gentile countries we live in are attempting to adapt toevah marriage laws and sadly they are influencing certain Jews. I have heard it said that it is not prohibited in written Torah.

    Firstly are we to say that solely we go by written Torah like the xtians and apikorsim? Secondly they are incorrect because there are places of prohibition using Pardes. Applying Pardes it should be stated that one of the biggest problems with their lifestyle and a source for prohibition in written Torah is in the commandment to be fruitful and multiply. Now of course we know that they can now adopt and with technology even impregnate one another. But we know from Torah that for all time it is forbidden to add or take away from Torah.

    An example:

    When I was in college I wrote a paper about scientists adding foreign proteins through gene splicing to make pork “healthier” to eat. In the very immediate future we will have healthy pork meat with omega 3 in the grocery store. With gene splicing technology is it farfetched to believe scientists will create a pig whose hoofs are cloven? Would it be acceptable to eat this pig? Gd forbid we eat this pig for we know that Gd gave us the Torah and commanded us not to add or take away from his Torah. In this law Hashem wanted to protect us from becoming like the goyim in following after their ways and their gods.

    One final question: Why does the Torah explicitly mention the prohibition against two men but not women?

    Ask yourself this question. When two men interlope how many averas are they committing and are they in a state of impurity? Now when two women do the same how many averas are they committing and are they in a state of impurity? No the women are not in a state of impurity and while they are committing averas they are committing less. Therefore the prohibition for the men is directly expressed while the women’s prohibition is subtle. In the gemara there is a discussion about two women together and it is decided while they are not ruled “impure” (because they are not a man who spilled his seed nor did they come in contact with a dead body) their behavior warrants flogging. Furthermore, men should not allow their wives,daughters et c to associate with them. Now if this isn’t enough to put to rest the toevah marriage issue it should be stated that the their lifestyle is ruled prohibited by the Rambam, and the Shulchan Aruch. In fact I don’t know any gadol who ever ruled it wasn’t prohibited.
    Five ways to stay in love forever?……………………………….Don’t look for advice in this brochure!

  • 6 LuvPoetics // Jul 13, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Filling in the spces>>SOME ONE FILL IN THE SPACES..
    LOVE SHOULD NEVER END……………….. Your unexpected love. Captivating and lovely to my mind,
    At first, I never cared who you were
    Now I don’t know who I am without you,
    You kissed me
    I felt my world change,
    You held me
    I heard my heart awaken,
    You loved me
    And my soul was born anew
    You have touched my heart
    Now my heart knows who you are
    And with every breath
    And every step
    I take down lonely roads,
    Your hand is my staff
    Your voice is my guide
    Your strength my shelter
    You’re passion my awakening.
    You walked lovingly into my life,
    And all my pain
    You took as your own,
    And all my fears
    You cast into the sea,
    All my doubt
    Lost in your eyes,
    You walked into my life
    And no matter if you choose to stay or go,
    My life is forever changed,
    Just because you loved me
    For a moment in time.
    And because I choose
    To love you
    For the rest of mine…………………………………..Love never ends…

  • 7 LuvPoetics // Jul 16, 2009 at 12:06 am

    ……. DOES LOVE EVER END
    OR IS IT A NEW BEGINING,
    WHISPER IN MYEAR
    TELL ME……………………………..That Morning Whisper, ” You leave me wanting nothing more than, wanting more of you”……………A suspended moment of perfect Bliss…………….

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