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LETTER TO COLUMNIST ‘BATYA MEDAD’ from unknown

April 2nd, 2009 · No Comments

Batya, my experience, I hope you don’t mind…

Well, first let me say, I was raised secular by a self-centered, non-religious, workaholic dad.

At age 16, seriously contemplating suicide, I turned to Christianity, and got “saved” & “Baptized by the Holy Spirit”. Those were the only religious people in my area that I knew of. From that point on I lived a devout life (even remaining a virgin until marriage). Then, for 30 years I experienced everything Protestant Christianity had to offer…. and taking everything I had to give. Which amounted to too much of my time, and too much of my money.

I KNOW what Christianity is ALL about, backwards & forwards, good & bad. I have experienced it all!

What I really wanted, most of all, was the truth: PURE FACTS.

“FACTS” & “TRUTH” are not the norm, I discovered, of Christianity. Most Christians are too uneducated to know that. That is why they are encourage to meet constantly, for rehashed & re-rehashed messages of little to no core value…primarily in the English language.

Christianity cannot endure true, quality scrutiny in either Greek, or Hebrew. That’s why Christians only learn a few single words, but are NEVER encouraged to learn Hebrew.

Their Sun and Wed meetings are little more than pep-rallies designed for two functions: take in money, & drum into their brains the “correct” doctrines held by their particular “Church” or “Denomination”. Which also explains why Christianity HAS so many Denominations.

I had no encounters with Jews or Judaism; until a Christian man told me, 29 years after my “salvation experience”, he was going to a ‘Michael Rood awakening’ meeting. It was there I was first introduced to elements of Judaism.

Leaving mainstream Protestant Christianity, I diligently searched everything I could get my hands on, about Judaism, but especially Christianized Messianic-izm.

But, you see, Christian Messianic leaders, like Christianity, encourage a FEAR and STIGMA of true Judaism, which leads their followers to distrust ALL non-Christianized JUDAISM.

Which is the problem, variations of Christianity’s lies are sold to Christianized Messianics. For example, they erroneously define the terms “echad” and “elohim”, “Ruach Haqodesh”, etc. just to name a few.

Sadly, I found Christian Messianics, who supposedly knew more “facts” were more dishonest, and prone to ignore the facts, than normal ignorant Christians. There are reasons this type of Messianic is indeed into MESS-iantics!

These people, often, true to their trend, tend to verbally beat their followers into submission. Which is why I ceased attending their meetings a few years before realizing the truth about “the Godhead”.

What honest Christian has ever looked up the Greek term “godhead” to find it is an ABSTRACT term that CANNOT be used scruptuously to support “God is three in ONE”?
Or that the words “Christian”, “Ileuses” (pre-Jesus) and other words, are non-existent in any early Greek manuscripts!

Christians, why is your “original” name for “Jesus” not found in the earlier Vine’s Expository Dictionary? Especially since the name “Jesus” supposedly exist in the N.T. hundreds of times? Not to mention “Christianity” which cannot be located in the earlier Young’s Concordance!

Lastly, Christians and their “Messianic” counterparts, in their ignorance & instability attempt to claim that I am a bitter person, who has “fallen into deception” “swallowing the lies of Satan”. How untrue. How dishonest on their part. In the recent past I have had children I never saw before, come up and grab my legs for a hug, and then repeat that wonderful action several times before returning to their parents, whom I’d also never met. These were pagan Goy, NOT Jews, to emphasize my point.

I held a baby, who’d been crying for hours, it seemed, in her mother’s arms. In my arms, she stopped immediately, smiled, and stayed happily content over half an hour. When I returned her, she cried unceasingly, again. This woman and child were Christian Messianic; I was not.

My second wife claims that she was “never blessed until she married me”; and, that “everything I touch turns to gold”.

Christians, you need to learn “Judaism” from true Jews. Jews, you need to avoid Christians, at least the one’s who do not come to you seeking the way to HaShem. Both of you parties (including myself) need to do your homework.

Thank you Batya

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many detractors of mine were quite upset ,,as usual and my response I think tore them apart.If they read what I post is one thing,, they didnt read ,Those that read, cant comprehend, thats that comprehend cant reason, Those that reason lack full facilities to cometo a conclusion.This means I am the only one right….lol
 WELL, I WISH THIS WAS A CHAT ROOM WITH MIC.
MY PERSONAL COMMENTS TO MANY OF YOU FOOLS..
The same with arutz sheva and most hosts.
the sins in Israel THE HOLY LAND ARE GREAT and who is handling them…A7 IS BUSY WITH XTIANS .
YOU idiots critize me for staying in AMERICA while you die in your streets of tel aviv by your own conduct and your own politicians.
You critisize me, but not your own, you want to correct my behavior but not your own,
you condemn,you mock and curse me but not yourself.
You want sin to be brought to the holy land but not correct your own ,
Homosexual parades and drugs, slave trafficers russian and israel mobs corruptions prostitutions xtian misisonaries bahais pretending to be nuetral while bowing to jeus in their belief and the bahai roots are arabic if i remember,they incorporated all the many gods,buildingtemples and mosques and churches
but you condemn insult observant jews..
when mashiach comes those other religions will not have churches and other gods..its not permitted by G”Ds law, not mine.
the assorted filth of the worlds religions found a safe haven in israel, and you want the followers of Torah to bring their families to such perversions
and you condemn me…
If those families dare venture outside of their neighborhood in israel they will be stoned to death stabbed or blown up.
60 years you had to make a heaven and you made filth
and you condemn me
.
You bring in obviously non jews
russians africans indians chinese, fake papers on american jews and want to assimilate them you homogenize them into Israel society watering down Torah,
JEWS HAVE *NO RIGHTS IT SEEMS,
Jews can not pray in some university grounds, you tear down jewish homes, take away jewish homes, steal jewish property and give away jewish land for your enemies..
and you blame me
BUT when you need american backing
you cry to me
you send your politicians to me
your rabbis to me
you family to me
asking for help from your brothers in galut throughout the world

YOU ISRAELIS HAVE DESTROYED ”THE LAND”
and you blame me

and you have the audacity to ask me, well first to insult me, because i dont want to live in your filth.and you think you are cute
when you tell ME to fix it…
TO FIX YOUR MESS. LOL

It will take 2 lifetimes to FIX IT
first to fight you secular and
‘over educated” idiots to stop polluting the land with your insane peace now green peace love my enemy people,
You never had peace with arabs, you never will have peace with arabs
you’ve had short intervals of peace with LOONG generations of death from arabs.
Your last war will be with the xtians that you invite to walk the Kotel with his crosses that are forbidden ..on holy jewish ground…
Israel must re-install Israel history
re-install Torah history and education
improve secular education
teach the meaning of respect and humilty to our rabbis and families
You must stop cowering before the enemy
teach political education from right wing conservatives
removing all left ideologies
remove all left wing professors
OF COURSE THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED RADICAL BY YOU DUMMIES BUT YOU ALREADY LIVE IN A RADICAL *LEFT WING* SOCIETY
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW EXCEPT PROMISE OF MORE WAR.

BUT IT AINT YOUR LAND
ITS G’DS LAND
YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT
YOU DONT BELIEVE THAT.
You believe you won the wars.
You believe you have the power.
You forgot GD gave the power to King David, To Moses and to YOU.
they were tested
and you are now tested
so far you are failing.

TO CONTINUE, ,
TO REMOVE ALL REBELLIOUS ARABS FROM HEBRON, JUDEA, SAMEREA and EAST JERUSALEM
and throughout Israel

REMOVE AND NOT PERMIT ANY ARAB FLAG TO BE FLOWN IN ISRAEL
REMOVE ALL ARAB SO CALLED ‘TEACHERS’ IN ISRAEL
REMIND THE JEWS THAT ISRAEL IS JEWISH LAND ..
REMIND THE DUMMY JEWS that my family and many families never left the middle east way back to ABARAHAM OUR FATHER.

BUT LETS GET TO DATE..
NO REVISIONS NO UP DATES NO REFORMD DEFORMED CONSERVATIVE RULINGS

AND DUMMIES LIKE #20 SHOULD BE LASHED 20 TIMES
He is a trouble maker and a idiot
how dare him tell me or any Jew that speaks up that we will not or should not say ”
next year in jerusalem.”
IS HE A PROPHET
A MIND READER?

HIS jerusalem hosts the gay parade,
MY jerusalem will excomunicate them
AND HOST THE SAGES IDEAS
and spirituality
#20 HAS NO VSION OTHER THEN ARROGANCE, FOOLISHNESS AND IDIOCY.
he tells me i will not say what we are commanded to say…
THIS IS FILTH OF THE HIGHEST ORDER, IT IS NOT A GAME OF INTIMIDATING ME TO MOVE.,,AND AVI SAID THAT RAV FIENSTIEN SAID IT WASNT AN OBLIGATION TO LIVE THERE….
THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING TIME AND TIME AGAIN..SO WHY DO AVI MOCK ME…
JUST MORE SICK ISRAELI ATTITUDE
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE ON THESE TALK BACKS PROVING WHY JEWS IN GALUT WILL WAIT FOR THE CALL FROM THE HEAVENS, NOT FROM YOU SICK BUNNIES.

you are disgusting

WHEN I GO ALMOST YEARLY
I NEVER TOUR, I go from rabbi to rabbi from mikveh to to a grave of a ztadeeq.

i am not a geographic jew that says i live in israel so i can do what i like and you american cant comment on me, BECAUSE I LIVE HERE.
I am not a gastromonic jew that eats pork on matzah saying i am doing my duty of no unleaven bread
i am not a cardiac jew that says i have israel in my heart,and go to the clubs for a joint or a prostitute OR SEX WITH A ARAB .
and I am not a ”pious’’ jew that finishes the amida in 1 minute
or a fat hasid that pushes his way through a crowd without saying excuse me.
i am not a secular jew that harrasses an observant jew and his family in the park as shown on one of the israel news sites

i am none of those things…
I pray in a satmar shul, go to the ohel of the lubavitch rebbe
visit the grave of the satmar rebbe,upstate NY
go to the tosh rabbi in canada.
I pray in a ashkanza shul when i need to and my sephardic shuls when i need to
I AM A JEW THAT TRIES HARDER, UNLIKE YOU ISRAELIS THAT ARE ’PERFECT’.

DONT TELL US AMERICAN JEWS WHAT TO DO.
WE KNOW WE ARE JEWS, YOU DON’T,YOU created your own judaism
IN ONE MORE GENERATION , YOU ISRAEL JEWS WILL NOT REMEMBER WHAT A MEZUZAH IS.

HASHEM TELLS US WHEN TO GO..and individually or collectively we will know when is the time..

AS ”HE” SAID ”HE” WILL.
NOT YOU DUMMIES WHO INSULT US.
none of you took the meanings of my words in my other posts.
YOU MAKE GREAT TRANSGRESSION BY INSULTING FELLOW JEWS.
AND MANY OF US ARE GETTING FED UP WITH YOU.
YOU CHASE US AWAY..
YOU ARE THE TRANSGRESSOR.

YOU HEARD THE GUY BARUCH’ MAKING FUN OF ME
WITH ‘’MY OWN’’ ARGUMENT
WHAT A IDIOT HE IS
PURE FILTHY ARROGANCE ON HIS PART
”.
HOW MANY JEWS MOVED TO ISRAEL AND COULDNT FIND DECENT WORK AND MOVED BACK

#20*Tweet Tweet
Poor Bacon. Once again you will lie to yourself at the Passover seder when you chirp the words “Next Year In Yerushalayim” like a talking parrot. At least have the honesty to tell everybody beforehand that you have no intention whatsoever to fulfill those words.
Baruch, Beit El (01/04/09

IS MY NAME BACON? AND YOU KNOW WHAT I WILL PRAY?
you will love me and call me by my name properly? what about my spirituality or my respect in all other facets of TORAH.
You want ‘bodies’ like tamar yonah told me.. Read my comments there onher last blog..facts not emotions dummies..
we are bodies to die for your sick political policies with the filthy arabs…

OR AVI #13 WHO SAYS
”Iwonder why Rabbi Feinstein chose to be buried in Israel?
Maybe he read Rav Ovadia’s and Rav Avraham Shapira’s rebuttals of his opinion. Anyway, what he really said was that it is indeed a mitzvah to live in Israel, but that it wasn’t an obligation to live there. Anyway, we all know its just an excuse DACON for hiding behind your rabbis like a frightened little girl.
Avi, Jerusalem (01/04/09)

HE COULDVE LIVED IN ISRAEL BUT CHOSE TO LIVE IN THE GREAT AMERICA’ ISNT THAT RIGHT AVI, YOU DUMMY
AND I HIDE BEHIND MY RABBIS?
YOU SCHMUCK,,
RABBIS, GREATEST OF THIS GENERATION, WORLD RECOGNIZED IN ANY COMMUNITY, I FOLLOW HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF THEM IN AMERICA….
I dont follow rebellious rabbis that make new rulings such as ashkanaz permitted to eat ketniyot.
that is expressly forbidden.

AND #2
WHY R’ FISHMAN POSTS YOUR CRAP IS BEYOND ME
YOU ARE MORE FILTH
BECAUSE OF YOUR IGNORANCE
NOT EVEN SEARCHING TO LEARN.
YOU ARE ANOTHER MISSIONARY JEWISH OR XTIAN YOU ARE A MISSIONARY FOR HELL.

YOU HAVE DETERMINED OVER ALL THE RABBIS THAT YOU ARE RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG
YOU STUPID IDIOT
WHY ARE YOU POSTED HERE..

I DONT KNOW..

IS IT FOR ME TO ANSWER YOU TO YOUR FACE..

IF IT WASNT FOR ME YOU WOULD GET AWAY WITH THIS CRAP AND HARM MORE JEWS
YOU,

R’ FISHMAN ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WELL…
OF ANY HARM TO JEWS,
BY WHAT YOU POST.

ARE YOU SERVING HASHEM OR
ARE YOU SERVING THE ISRAEL ALIYAH TOURIST BOARD GETTING A COMMISSION FOR PLANE TICKETS.

I AM THOROUGHLY DISGUSTED
I VOICE MY OPINION..WHEN THERE IS ONE,
THERE ARE USUALLY MANY MANY MORE
SOMETIMES EVEN THE SILENT MAJORITY
how can you post that crap…R’ Fishman of #2

if you talk back represents the greater Israel, which I think you do, Then I am safer in America because the next stunami might be Israel in one way or another.

DACON9

 

 

THIS IS THE LINK TO  RABBI ZTVI FISHMANS BLOG, GO STRAIGHT TO  COMMENTS…ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT HIS PREVIOUS BLOG COMMENTS, JUST SCROLL DOWNWARD
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my letter to columnist  R’  ZTVI FISHMAN IN REPLY  to those ”insisting we all move to Israel NOW:  It became as annoying as my ex wife calling me to say she made a mistake…    or  meeting my math teacher 25 yrs later  that she was sorry she failed me….
NO HALACHA TO MAKE ALIYAH NOW
THERE IS NO HALACHA THAT SAYS A JEW *MUST MAKE ALIYAH NOW….
sk,USA, is disturbed by the hounding of JEWS NOT IN ISRAEL to move and is SK’S REASON for not making aliyah.
I can understand his sentiment, but to blame it on one individual I cant agree.
I blame mostly
ARUTZ SHEVA FOR TURNING INTO THE XTIAN NETWORK WITH the noahides and xtians and words like ”my best xtain friends”.
where is the seperation?
Torah tells us to separate from other nations, not make an alliance or attachment.

.A7 has been blurrinig the separation more then the xtians
The A7 chat room are xtians and have judged and abused jews. The torah teaching in there by guest rabbis is forbidden to teach to xtians..And the noahides here,
is an abuse to jews by the pretend noahides so its another vehicle for missionaries attempts to ”capture” a JEW.
YOU GET A NOAHIDE AND LOSE 10 JEWS TO THE MISSIONARIES HANGING AROUND.
NOTHING IS PEFECT, TRUE,
BUT to create more holes in the vessel is swimming against the tide.The hoile is reaCHING OUT TO XTIANS FOR FRIENDSHIP AND NOAHIDE CONVERSIONS,
As the chabad runs after lost jews neglecting the known Jews,
they lose 10 and MAY regain one,
. …no sense to that

ITS A MITZVAH
BUT IF A HARDSHIP EXISTS,
WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO GO NOW.

WALK A FEW FEET IN HA ARETZ AND YOU FULFILLED A MITZVAH TO HAVE A SHARE IN OLAM HABAH
( keep in your mind you will one day, send donations, holiday there, and pray for Mashiach,then improve your sevice of Hashem where ever you are )

by your definitions, one of the greatest Rabbis in this generation, IN GALUT, was sinning the greatest sin, G’D FORBID’

RABBI MOSHE FIENSTEIN ZTL SAID WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE ALIYAH NOW.

any prominent speaker in todays world,
is the cause of more harm in
measuring sin like you do,
OR EMBARRASSING OR INSULTING A JEW FOR NOT MAKING ALIYAH

Measuring sins as you did
IS A GREAT SIN,
you are not a prophet to know and you are not backed by HALACHA except what you pull out of context.

YOU are NOT smarter then thousands of GREAT rabbis presently LIVING IN ”GALUT”.

ANY SPEAKER TODAY THAT *INSULTS OR *EMBARRASSES OR *INTIMIDATES A JEW
IN GALUT,
EITHER FACE TO FACE OR PUBLICALLY,
IS THE SINNER.NOT THE JEWS IN DIASPORA.

you should not speak like that even if its from emotion and love of torah.
THAT may constitue CHILLUL HASHEM.

You will NOT find one TRUE TORAH RABBI that will give you a blanket opinion on aliyah.
It is not an easy subject and not an easy solution presently.

ARUTZ SHEVA IS NOT APPROPRIATE HOW THEY WENT WILD ON THIS QUEST OF ALIYAH before
improving ones personal midot and observance in the front before anything else.

embarrassment,insulting intimidation of a jew has grave consequeses.

I NEVER SAID I AM A ZTADEEQ
but if i know a fellow Jews is misquoting I am obligated to tell them….
but
EVEN THE JOKING WE DO HERE MANY TIMES IS IMPROPER, YES I ENDULGE IN IT ALSO,
AND,,,,
THERE ARE TIMES WE ARE PERMITTED TO SLAP THE IMPROPRIETY IN THE FACE
ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS AN AUDIENCE LISTENING AND A POINT TO SAVE THE GREATER COMMUNITY HAS TO BE MADE.

everything has to be weighed,,,,everything…

WE MUST STRIVE TO IMPROVE OURSELFS IS THE LAW..WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS,,WE MUST **TRY AS BEST WE CAN**
TRY…
and G”D will know your truth,
If you *TRIED* OR LIED TO YOURSELF THAT YOU TRIED.

If you can do aliyah then great!

But dont mock or insult a fellow jew by this crazy movement,
I repeat
YOU will NOT find a true torah rabbi that will say you MUST GO NOW, without a 30 minute explanations at least 30 minutes, of all the reasons why you dont have to IF…. AND IF AND IF.

AND IF THAT RABBBI DOES INSIST,,,,
CHANGE RABBIS,
THAT IS FORBIDDEN IF HE INSISTS.

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
HOW COULD YOU,
IF YOU NEVER ASKED ME FOR THE REST OF RABBI CHURBAS RESPONCE WHICH WAS TO LONG TO POST HERE.

NONSENSE…

THERE IS A TIME TO PLAY HERE
AND A TIME TO BE SERIOUS.

#55, STUFFING MY FACE IN LAKEWOOD..WAS AN HONOR LAST NIGHT..the food was made more holy because of the 200 or so all observant men praying ‘arbit’,
IN A TOWN OR GREAT ENORMOUS TORAH LEARNING IN A HALL ‘BEIS FIEGA’ THAT HAD SOME OF THE GREATEST RABBIS TO BE THERE FOR SEMICHOT HAPPY OCCASSIONS.
RABBI KOTLER FOR ONE …
RABBI MATISYAHU SOLOMON FOR ANOTHER..
SO MANY

all smiling and happy in honor of the bride and groom..

MAY ‘AM YISRAEL ALWAYS SHARE IN AND HAVE JOY LIKE A BRIDE AND BRIDEGROOM
“ISRAEL AND HASHEM’
AND THIER CHILDREN TO COME,

MAY WE MERIT TO SEE THE ARRIVAL OF MASHIACH

*RABBI* DACON9

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