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I was kicked out of a conservative political chat room because another JEW posted ‘xtian’.HOW SAD, the xtians havent learned yet to be kind to THE JEWS. THE LAST WAR THE CHILDREN OF ESAUV.EVEN IN THE CHAT ROOMS THEY WAR WITH THE JEWS DEMANDING THIER WAY ONLY. SHEMA YISRAEL AND THEY WILL PERISH AS OUR PROPHETS FORESAW. THE XTIANS WILL BE THE LAST WAR EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT REPENT ACCEPTING THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL…AND NOT their mangods

November 24th, 2009 · 5 Comments

BEFORE I GET INTO THE ISSUE  LET ME TAKE  YOU  STRAIGHT TO THE LAW:

Exodus 23:13 Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not mention the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth.

Joshua 23:7 so that you will not associate with these nations, these which remain among you, or mention the name of their gods, or make anyone swear by them, or serve them, or bow down to them.

Hosea 2:17 “For I will remove the names of the Baals from her mouth, So that they will be mentioned by their names no more.

Joshua 23:7 so that you will not associate with these nations, these which remain among you, or mention the name of their gods, or make anyone swear by them, or serve them, or bow down to them.


Psalm 16:4 The sorrows of those who have bartered for another god will be multiplied; I shall not pour out their drink offerings of blood, Nor will I take their names upon my lips.

Exodus 20:23
‘ You shall not make other gods besides Me; gods of silver or gods of gold, you shall not make for yourselves

Deuteronomy 11:16
” Beware that your hearts are not deceived, and that you do not turn away and serve other gods and worship them

and jews pray numerous time there is ONLY ‘ONE’

SHEMA  YSIRAEL  AD–NI  ELOKENU  AD–NI ECHADDD (intentionally mispelled so as not to use hashems nae in vain)

HEAR O ISRAEL, HASHEM IS OUR GD HASHEM IS ONE , THE ONE AND ONLY (english translation of above)

THE ABOVE IS WHERE WE CANNOT EVEN MENTION THE NAMES OF OUR *ONE GD IN VAIN

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ATT: I GET A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT ‘I’ AM RUDE,  ARROGANT ETC ETC ETC….BUT I HAVENT YET RECEIVED ONE, NOT ONE  THAT APOLOGIZED FOR THE XTIANS ATTACKS AGAINST JEWS..FOR 2000 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR APOLOGIES AND ACTING ON THEM BY NOT TRYING TO CONVERT US…. ALL WE GET ARE EXCUSES WHY THEY CONVERT US….OR SMILES  AND HEAD NODS WHILE BAPTISING JEWISH GRAVES….AND NOW TO CONTINUE…

NOW BACK TO THE CONTROVERSY

I explained,  that JEWS,  by GDs LAW , are not to say  the name of any other god… and YOU  say he IS YOUR god.  JEWS KNOW ONLY ‘ONE GD’ ..MANY USE THAT SPELLING AS SORT OF A MIDDLE GROUD SO WE CAN BE CORDIAL TO EACH OTHER AND FIND A RESPECT TO ONE ANOTHER…….the xtian cursed, abused ,insulted and ranted about that and kicked me and the other JEW OUT.  I  HAD THOUGHT there was a mutual respect in those rooms as the xtians said they support JEWS AND ISRAEL FOREVER AND WILL GO TO WAR TO DEFEND ISRAEL…Other times I was invited back to even teach some TORAH,  I guess the respct goes only  as long as they think they  think they can convert JEWS TO ACCEPT THEIR god.

I GUESS ITS NOT UNCONDITIONAL  LOVE AFTER ALL. I GUESS GDs LAW THAT WE SEPARATE FROM OTHER NATIONS IS RIGHT AGAIN….. ANY OPINIONS?
I’D LIKE TO ADD THAT I VERY STRRONGLY CONDEMNED A VERY POPULAR INTERNET JEWISH RADIO SHOW FOR USING DEROGATORY TERMS ABOUT XTIANS IN AMERICA. IT WAS ALL OVER MY BLOG AND I CALLED THAT INTERNET RADIO SHOW TWICE ”LIVE ON AIR” WE WERE SCREAMING TO EACH OTHER. i WAS DEFENDING THE XTIANS..READ MUCH FURTHER DOWN ..
LOOK FOR Jermey Gimpel and tovia singer. Then look to left side  PAGE UNDER THE SAME NAMES TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT TRANSPIRED….THAT RADIO HOST EVEN ANSWERED ME POSTED ON THIS BLOG….and you will see that I didnt accept his false apology so I would conclude …TORAH IS RIGHT.  JEWS MUST SEPARATE FROM ALL OTHER NATIONS EXCEPT AS A CORDIAL HELLO AND GOODBY.
 THE WORLD WILL NEVER ACCEPT US AS WE JEWS ARE…..BELIEVERS IN THE ‘ ONE GD’  OF ISRAEL AND NONE OTHER AS THE SECOND COMMANDMENT CLEARLY SAYS….THERE IS NONE OTHER THEN  ‘ME’   THERE ARE NONE BESIDES ‘ME’   THERE ARE NONE ALONG SIDE ‘ME’   I AM ‘ONE’   I AM YOUR GD. ACCEPT NO OTHER IMAGES NO gods .  I AM THE LRD THY  GD.
 

NOW IT HAS COME TO WHERE THE WORLD CANT EVEN BE CIVIL WITH US ON THE SURFACE.

 SURELY A SIGN OF MASHIACH COMING SOON, ANOTHER WAKE UP TO JEWS TO BE A LITTLE MORE OBSERVANT IN THEIR SERVING GD.

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FROM READER lef48

  I am the room owner, I was not there at the time this incident happened.I am a jew, fairly well versed in what jews can do or should not do when discussing religion with say christians.From the reports I got ALL parties are to blame on this occasion. Both sides made a mountain out of a molehill.The day fllowing the incident, I spoke at length to the room on the MIC on this subject and the matter is now clearly understood by the christian parties I spoke to.I invite you to come back to my room at any time. There is no need to create a rift when no rift exists except for the ego of some people on both sides. I regret to say that the jew who pretended that the Torah forbids to say the words Jesus-C. is mistaken. The Torah does not mention Jesus.I am very sad that good jewish friends are under the false impression that my room does not welcome them just because one guy took up an argument with them over a trivial matter. Incidentally this person is no longger an admin in my room.Rather than spread rumours, I suggest you contact me personally and / or just return to the room which welcomes you.Yours sincerely and shalom,lef48_________________EDITOR DACON9 :EMPHATICALLY STATES THAT YOU  THE ”ROOM OWNER IS NOT ‘WELL VERSED’ IN ANY WAY OF WHAT A JEW can or should do at all in any matter.BOTH SIDES WERE *NOT*  TO BLAME IN ANY MANNER OR MATTER. THE XTIANS PICKED UP THEIR SWORDS AND SHIELDS AND ATTACKED .THE XTIANS IN THE ROOM HAVE SO MANY TIMES SAID HOW THEY WILL FIGHT TO DEFEND ISRAEL YET WHEN THE ”JEW” PARTICIPANT IN YOUR ROOM POSTED ‘XTIAN’ AND WAS VERBALLY ABUSED BY YOUR ‘ADMIN’,  I TOOK THE MIC AND EXPLAINED  THAT THE JEWS THAT DO CARE  ABOUT WHAT THE ‘ONE GD OF ISRAEL AND RABBIS TEACH IN TORAH AND COMMENTARY, THAT  JEWS  ARE NOT PERMITTED TO MENTION THE NAMES OF ‘OTHER gods’ .THE further explanation IS THAT THOSE THAT MAKE gods , idols of wood and stone ,images of man as their diety ARE GOING AGAINST THE SECOND COMMANDMENT  AS  JUST ONE point of commentary. THOSE XTIANS HAVE REPLACED ‘GD’ WITH JEUS AND OR ADDED the guy as a god and or part of a trinity. All absurd changes not permitted IN JUDAISM. SO THATS AN OBVIOUS ALTERATION OF THE ORIGINAL RELIGION OF THE man they call a god.You lev who supposedly *knows what a jew can do or not  should start learning with a TORAH ORTHODOX RABBI BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF BUT ARE MERELY PLAYING WITH YOUR OWN EGO TO IMPRESS  YOUR ROOMIES. is that the issue though? isnt the issue deeper then that. Shouldn’t the issue be of xtian respect for JEWS ? THE ISSUE IS MUCH DEEPER THEN THAT BUDDY..YES I HAVE NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT FOR YOU LEV AFTER YOU SENT your COMMENT IN.NEVER AGAIN . THE ENEMY WITHIN.  THE XTIANS HAVE FORGOTTEN WHO jeus PRAYED TO and I dont need any contrived explanations from any readers of what and how..its just more xtian fluff.  THE XTIANS IN THIS ROOM THAT WERE SILENT IS PROOF AGAIN WHERE THEY STAND IN RESPECT TO JUDAIMS AND ISRAEL.YOUR XTIANS HAVE SAID AT TIMES THAT WE KNOW ‘JEWS ARE TO BE OUR LIGHT’ WELL THEN BUDDY , THEIR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT  IS YOUR LIE TO THE WORLD TO SOFTEN THE JEWS ATTACHMENT TO TORAH. IF JEWS ARE TO BE THE LIGHT , THEN WHY DO THEY ATTEMPT TO TURN OUR LIGHT OFF BY IMPOSING ”THEIR STANDARDS OF HOW AND WHEN WE JEWS MAY SHINE ”UNTO THEM’.NOW YOU LEV HAVE MADE STATEMENTS WHICH ARE INCRIMINATING AND ACCUSATORY TO THE JEWS THAT WERE IN THE ROOM. I AM ONE OF THEM BUDDY BOY.THERE WAS NO EGO INVOLVED ON  THE SIDE OF THE JEWS. WE WERE ATTACKED BY YOUR XTIANS WARRIORS THE PROTECTORS OF A IDOLS SAINTS AND A FALSE  god,  a heretic that was kicked out of the jewish community that his mother was accused of romancing a roman soldier. I REALLY DONT CARE ALL I WANNA KNOW IS DID CHARIOTS HAVE BACK SEATS? WAS THERE A HOLE IN HIS ARMOUR? .Again you lev show your ignorance of any judaic learnings. I WILL REPEAT ”NOT TO MENTION  THE NAME OF OTHER gods”Again you say jews spread rumors… there were no rumors said. THESE ARE FACTS REPORTED. Your wonderful xtian firends of JEWS …NOT ONE XTIAN CAME TO DEFEND OR ASK FOR MORE CLARIFICATION OR EXPLANATION FROM A JEW..INSTEAD THE JEWS WERE ATTACKED AGAIN BY ANOTHER OF YOUR BUDDIES. AND  THE WONDERFUL XTIANS IN THE ROOM WERE SILENT, NOT ONE CAME TO DEFEND THE JEWS.YOU ARE THE ONE CREATING RUMORS, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS IGNORANT OF TORAH, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT FAILED AS A MODERATOR FOR ALLOWING SUCH CHARACTERS TO ADMIN A ROOM OF SUCH DIVERSE CHARACTER.TAKE THE BLAME BUDDY.DONT BLAME THE JEW FOR THE XTIANS PICKING UP THIER SWORDS AND SHIELD AND MAKING A VERBAL SPANISH INQUISITION.and further lev ole buddy, dont try to play poker about what you know very little or nothing aboout and that is what a jew can and should do.NEVER AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN NEVER AGAIN.DONT BOTHER RESPONDING LEV. YOU AND YOUR XTIANS HAVE PROVEN TO ME SO MANY TIME AFTER I HAVE BEEN SOFTEN UP THAT WE MUST SEPARATE AS TAUGHT IN OUR WRITINGS.________________________

lef48  I regret to say that you are either ignorant or arrogant.
Or likely both.You are comitting Chillul Hashem by your position on this issue.I wish good luck on the personal level. May you also become enlightened with a measure of wisdom.Meantime, indeed we are not likely to meet again in my room. Have the decency to admit that YOU left the room and that no one ejected you.shalom,
lef48

 

EDITOR SAYS FOR THE RECORD:

 LEV, YOUR XTIAN WARRIOR SAID  ON MIC…”AND YOU DACON YOUR NEXT TO BE BOOTED…”

I DUCKED AND SIDE STEPPED YOUR WARRIORS PHYSICAL ATTACK  OF KICKING ME OUT…..LOL.

LEV BUDDY..YOU HAVE ALREADY SHOWED *YOUR IGNORANCE IN YOUR INITIAL SUPPOSED QUOTING OR STATING TORAH.

AND YOU COME BACK TO ME FOR MORE….YOU HAVE THE MAKINGS OF BEING THE FOOL OF THE YEAR NOT JUST THE WEEK.* OR YOU  ARE THE MESSIANIC OF THE MONTH. WHICH TITLE DO OYU PREFER. OR YOU CAN MAKE A TESHUVAH A REPENTANCE TO COME BACK TO TORAH.

YOU CALL WHAT I DO A CHI;LLUL HASHEM (GOING AGAINST) WHAT I DID ACTUALLY . FACTUALLY  IS A KIDDUSH HASHEM(PRAISING HASHEM) I CALLED YOUR CARDS, YOU SHOW NOTHING, YOU CAME UP EMPTY HANDED. AND EVERY READER SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE FRAUD HE IS ATTEMPTING TO PERPETUATE TO ANYONE IN HIS ROOM. I CHALLENGE ANYONE THAT ACCESS TO A * *real* torah orthodox rabbi to copy and paste everything I posted and you will LEARN THAT I AM  (EMET)  TRUE TO TORAH.The reason i ask you to test me is so you too can be closer to the ONE GD OF ISRAEL IN THE WA THAT ‘HE’ ASKS OF US AND NOT ANY FORBIDDEN WAY OF THOSE SUPPOSED ENLIGHTENED OR HERETICAL LOST WAYS OF PEOPLE LIKE WHAT LEV PROPOSES IN HIS POST HERE OR HIS WORDS OF HIS BRAND OF EXPLANATIONS..A COMPLETE DISTORTION . 

 LEV BUDDY..IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ WHY IS IT YOU MISSED THE OPENING PROOFS OF ONLY *SOME OF THE SOURCES OF ”NOT TO MENTION THE NAMES OF OTHER GODS.”

LEV MAH MAN…IT SEEMS YOU ARE UNDRESSED AND YOU HAVE NOTHING INSIDE…..

AND ANOTHER THING LEV BUDDY BOY..CHILLUL HASHEM?( mocking GD) YOU DUMMY, IN FACT I HAVE MADE A KIDDUSH HASHEM….(PRAISING GD)

LEVVY BOY..KEEP COMING BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR REDICULOUS IGNORANT STATEMENTS…DID I BLOW YOUR COOL IN YOUR XTIAN CHAT ROOM? IS THAT IT? OR IS IT YOUR EUROPEAN LIBERALSIM?

FROM: JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE , PALTALK

I have been in and on paltalk for many years now. I have been a Christian Pastor & Messianic Leader and now a Noachide.

There is and has always been tension within these rooms that are ready to burst. Once in awhile the ballon pops and out spills the deep and buried emotions of people for whatever reason or cataylist.

I am always on my guard regarding these issues. I know each person involved in this situation and I feel a need to respond and I hope what I am about to say will not offend but it will due to the emotional content of the subject.

Christians either for personal or professional reasons state they support the Jewish people however one must look further into the motive; intent or purpose of statements or actions.

There stands in the annuals of time from our ancestors similar situations and we must look to those lessons to glean the necessary response. There is a reason why the Jewish people must be separate from other nations. We can be nice and friendly to each other in passing (towards other religions). However in Human devolpment there is a term called learning by association(observational learning) which means once you are exposed to other teachings that are not your own you will take on those teachings if your previous learning foundation is not reinforced. Therefore any Jew must be ever vigilant of this learning process.

I can carry on but will probally bore you with too many facts LOL!

Shalom
JDL

EDITOR REPLIES: NO YOU ARE NOT BORING WITH DETAILS. THIS HAS TO BE SAID. THIS MUST BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE JEWS, AND THE XTIANS MUST KNOW THAT WE JEWS ALSO ARE AWARE OF THEIR DECEPTIVE  MISLEADING OUTRIGHT LYING PRACTICES TO CON A JEW. AND TO WHAT WOULD A JEW GO TO? TO AN IDOL ? TO WHAT THE ‘ONE GD OF ISRAEL’ SAID NOT TO GO TO…WHERE WOULD THE JEW GO TO? TO WHERE ABRAHAM TOOK HIS STAFF TO DESTROY WHAT HIS FATHER WAS MAKING…IDOLS…? IF THE XTIANS WERE REAL…WHY DID GD BLESS THE JEWS….IF THE XTIANS WERE REAL..WHY WOULD IT BE WRITTEN NUMEROUS TIMES THAT THE CHILDREN OF ESAU ARE EVIL…JUST LAST WEEKS TORAH PORTION ESAU REPRESENTING THE XTIAN NATION WAS CALLED ”’EVIL”’ .

FROM DEBORAH

BRAVVVVO!! …SOMEONE DECIDED TO POST SOMETHING HONEST…AMONG THE NONJEWS,,,,( JDL )I DONT KNOW HOW HE COULD HAVE THOUGHT HE WAS BORING US WITH DETAILS…I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE MORE DETAILS….I DONT THINK IT WAS DETAILED ENOUGH!…..LOL….GOOD LETTER

FROM DEBORAH

Lef48….You have revealed your ignorance to other Jews, by your lack of reasoning,knowledge, and fairness. Not to mention your lack of knowledge to Torah.You have said, untruths regarding what Jews are permitted to do regarding false gods. A very irrisponsible thing to do, with serious consequences to you.. Lef48 you are now obligated to come forth with truths to this lie you perpertrated on all jews who read your words,who could be, or could have been influenced by them. You are also obligated to an apology to Dacon who was publicly offended and Loshon Hara’d by you. ( an apology specific and detailed to fit the issue).

There are many sources for the prohibition NOT to let the name of another idol/god to pass over your lips.
The basis for this is Shemos 23:13 “Be careful to do all things that I have said to you; and don’t invoke the name of other gods, neither let them be heard out of your mouth.” If any other Jew or Lef48 refuses to accept this .and are arguing against this; written Torah,…. then they wont accept anything Rambam or the Shulchan Aruch say. They be ignorant and unaware of what is the truth.

And before Lef48 or,any of you come back with; ‘Why there are false gods mentioned in the Torah , so, we must be able to repeat their names??????????? ‘ We are allowed to mention the names of gods mentioned in the Torah, for instance Baal or Meloch because… they are in Torah and are no longer worshipped. But… NOT the names of foreign gods today such as yuske.
Gd Forbid………………..
And to all of our Xtian friends out there???…I hope you all get everything you deserve on XMAS! with EXtra trimmings…

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lenny abravanel to me

JewswithViews; post to,Lef48.
Although, I am not a direct witness to the issue causing this controversy between, Dacon9  this political chat room and, it’s owner- Lef48. I would like to interject to say on the issue of the Torah and forbidden/false gods. Lef48 I am appalled by your refusal to accept and recognize your obvious error regarding this issue. You should open your eyes and embrace the emess of the Torah which states clearly you are wrong.  I whole heartedly agree with reader; Deborah (she raises in her chatback to Lef48).on the issue of serious consequence and wrongness on behalf of Lef48; to insist these wrong things Lef48  or any other jew say are the truth and what  problems it can confront to a jew not knowing any better and may believes these outright fabrications presented by Lef48 or any other jew. Deborah also raises a very interesting point regarding Baal or Meloch. Lef48, just as you want Dacon9 to show decency to appease your personal embarrassment over this issue, and requested him to apologize, I think you should also follow your own advice and  show some decency and correct yourself regarding your ignorance on said Torah issues.

All this being said, I think the thing I’m most confused about is your accusal that Dacon9 has presented himself a, ‘chillul Hashem( DIRESPECTING HASHEM)?  I would dare ask how and why you would say such a riduculous thing but, I am aware that you have no knowledge at all in Torah and find it moot asking  you those questions. As a jew ,I do  have the obligation, to point out when I bare witness to such questionable actions and behaviors coming from another jew. I am obligated to point his out for the safety of all other jews who might be misguided by your words which are false.’ And for this reason I write this chatback to Lef48 and all other jews who follow his obvious err.

 

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FROM whispurrr : 

yankeeman is no longer an admin. and i resent your attack of me., and i am offended that you disrespect me and other CHRISTIANS WITH your X…. i read your blog. no one bounced you from the room.  why would you lie about that. it was obvious from your blog that you do not care for Chrstians at all. You know how i feel about Jews and Israel. You know my connections to the Jewish faith. i grew up with a Jewish Orthodox family. They would send my family a CHRISTMAS card with the manger scene on the front. You bring forth the proof to us, that it is in the Torah or the Talmud that you are told you cant type the word CHRIST…. shame on you for dividing us.  the muslims and the liberals applauded this scene last night.   i was not silent, i was behind the scenes trying to bring calm but what you said.  i loved to listen to you speak. i considered you to be a beautiful man of faith and respect for those who were not Jews, but after reading your blog i am saddened to realize, that you dont much care for people who are not Jews. In spite of this you are always welcomed in our room. you were not bounced and not banned. There were other Jews in the room who did not agree with you and respect Christians .  Our room is owned by a Jew and our room has never tried to sell Christianity to anyone. it isnt allowed period.  Sally and Hinda were just as offended. Christians are taking a beating in America. we cant even publicly celebrate Christmas anymore.. we are on edge and angry and yankee displayed a frustration like all of us have because of the muslim in the whitehouse and his attempt to push G-d far from us.  when yankee saw the x, he lost it.  how about we call you Jews Schmews. i guess that would make you angry too. dont call me a xtrian Sir.. i am a Christian.  i considered you my friend.   G-d bless you.

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THE ANSWER FROM THE EDITOR DACON9

YO LADEEEE…ORTHODOX JEWISH PEOPLE ARE  NOT PERMITTED TO SEND XMAS CARDS TO CELEBRATE A HOLIDAY OF PAGANIS OR FALSE gods.

WHY DID YOU PUT A DASH IN  THE NAME OF THE ”ONE GD OF ISRAEL”…. ARE YOU MAKING STATEMENT of support to me? ….LOLOLOL…. YOU ARE A XT-AN  A FOLLOWER OF A mangod a xtian follower of  jeus your god……

SALLY AND HINDA ARE PROPHETESSES I HAVE HEARD and so we alllll should follow what they THINK is correct..the same as lev..in fact perhaps they can start their own religion based on what they feel is right…….THEY KNOW THE ENTIRE TORAH And all the works of the sages..they are practicing  jews with full knowledge of the laws….and are also sisterinlaws of MOSES….LOLOLLOL

AND THE JUSTIFICATION YOU OFFER FOR YANKEEMAN THE XTIAN FOR DISRESPECTING,  FOR BEING ABUSIVE  IS ALWAYS WELCOMED AS AN EXCUSE TO KILL JEWS…HITLER USED A JUSTIFICATIONS  and the church often uses justifications for attempting to proselytize JEWS.  so of course you may kill US JEWS ANYTIME YOU ARE UPSET AT THE MOON BEING FULL over miami …. JEUS THE mangod  used justification to go against THE TORAH AND THE RABBIS..SO OF COURSE WE WELCOME JUSTIFICATION TO ABUSE AND OR KILL US JEWS…YOUR ROOM IS OWNED BY A JEW?….There ya go…now you can definitely kill more jews…..LADY..YOU HAVE SHOWN THE FACT…XTIANS ARE DIFFERENT THEN JEWS….And never will we be more than cordial acquiantences…. ALL HAIL CEASAR !

current news article excerpt:
It is safe to assume that the recent “kick a Jew day” in a Florida school elicited the usual response from Jewish leaders and organizations – shock, dismay, anger, and of course the demand for apologies. This should come as no surprise as this is the standard Jewish reaction to acts of anti-Semitism, whether perpetrated against students in a Florida school or against elderly Jews in the streets of London.
Does anyone seriously believe that the tremendous growth of anti-Israel demonstrations in cities and campuses throughout North America, South America and Europe are really only “anti-Israel” and not “anti-Jewish” as many apologists would like us to believe?
SO XT-IANS..LETS BUILD ANOTHER HOLOCAUST MUSEUM.
OK JEWS,  THE WIND WILL BE OVER 5 MILES PER HOUR TONIGHT SO LETS STAY INDOORS IN CASE A XTIAN  THINKS ITS TO WINDY SO IS THEREFORE JUSTIFIED   TO ABUSE US JEWS….
AND FURTHER ON IT IS YOU THE XTIAN THE DIVIDES YOURSELF FROM THE ‘ONE’ GD OF ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE FOR IT IS *YOU  THAT GOES AGAINST THE SECOND COMMANDMENT AND THE COMMANDMENT TO KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY WHERE THE SABBATH IS SATURDAY..NOT SUNDAY….
IT IS YOU THE XTIAN NATION THAT  SEPARATES THE JEWS buy  going against the torah laws  of trying to convert us JEWS  to bow to your idols and false mangods…IT IS YOUR XTIAN WAY THAT HAS LEFT JUDAISM AND CREATED SOMETHING WHICH GD HATES…. AND THAT IS YOUR XTIAN RELIGION…. NOW IF YOU LOOKED INTO  THE NOAHIDE LAWS AND LEARN THEM WITH A TORAH ORTHODOX RABBI AND NOT ANOTHER XTIAN OR REFORM OR CONSERVATIVE PRETENSE JEW..THEN YOU WILL BE SERVING THE ”ONE”  GD OF ISRAEL AS ”HE” ASKS OF YOU…
BEING A XTIAN it always is and WAS YOUR CHOICE TO SIN AS A XTIAN OR TO LEARN WHAT GD WANTS OF OTHER NATIONS SUCH AS YOUR XTIAN NATION.  YOU CHOSE SIN….
MAYBE ITS TIME YOU DO LEARN THE TRUTH …NOT A CREATED MAN MADE RELIGION SUCH AS YOURS…
HEY LADEEEE))))))..THEN YOU SAY TO ME  ABOVE   ”YOU BRING FORTH THE PROOF THAT JEWS CANT SAY THE NAMES OF OTHER gods, shame on you for dividing us….LADEEEE )))))), IF I BROUGHT FORTH THE PROOOF, AND YOU SAW IT..WHAT IS THE PROOF BUT THE WORDS OF THE ”ONE GD OFISRAEL”’ AND YOU XTIAN LADEEEE ARE TELLING GD ”SHAME ON YOU””
YOU XTIANS ARE SO BRAINWASHED INTO BELIEVING YOUR TWISTED VERSIONS OF GD THAT  ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO EVER SEE THE TRUTH….
YOU XTIANS ARE WALKING CONTRADICTIONS AND WHISPURR IS THE PROOF…
 IN MY OPINION, I believe that LEV wants to separate JEWS AND xtians that accept what I show them as proof because it breaks his possible  slow introduction to messianic world of accepting jues…its merely my opinion that LEV is a messianic and not a JEW..BUT A HERETIC, APIKOROS. I BASE MY OPINION ON WHAT HE SAYS THAT  HE CHALLENGES MY  POSTINGS OF PROOF STRAIGHT FROM TORAH..A CHILD CAN RESEARCH WHAT  I POSTED….
LEC CANNOT  DISPROVE ME AND HE HAS TOLD OTHERS NOT TO ACCEPT MY INTERPRETATIONS…
HEY PEOPLE..I AM MERELY THE MESSENGER NOT THE TRANSLATER ..I RELAYED TORAH…LIKE A LOYAL SECRETARY…. WORD FOR WORD….YOU DONT LIKE IT? YOU CAN THEN PICK UP YOUR PASS TO HELL WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS BLOG….
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Hell-Kitty

Dacron, i don’t care what you are, you’re an arrogant j-rk. these good people have come back to invite you kindly but you’re too arrogant and to up your own nose to see class when it hits you in your F-ce. this has nothing to do with religion or beliefs, i believe you’re an angry, narcissitic and vindictive man. have fun, take your meds, lie down, and talk to a professional lmao or should i say ‘l-m-o’

AND I ANSWER:

LOL..CLASS ? ..DO YOU MEAN AFTER YOU SHOOT I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL THAT  I DUCKED AVOIDING GETTING  KILLED FROM YOUR ASSAULT THIS TIME…?

IT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION?  WHY THATS WHAT STARTED IT..OH SORRY, OF COURSE IT ISNT RELEVENT  IN YOUR ATTEMPT TO HIDE YOUR SICKNESS OF WARRING AGAINST THE JEWS….IT ISNT RELEVANT BECAUSE ITS FACTS THAT YOU WANT TO REWRITE LIKE YOU DID WITH JEUS…

LETS GET TO IT LADEEEE. I AM A JEW….NOT ONE STOOD UP FOR US WHEN YOUR XTIAN WARRIOR THREW HIS SPEAR AGAINST US…And no one invited us back….

TALKING ABOUT CLASS… our rabbis yearly go to rome asking for the list of  converts from ww11 that you supposedly were savings from your own roman nazis…only to be tricked into converting to xtianinty…why doesnt your roman leader give all the names to our rabbis..and not a token handfull only?

and why doesnt your roman leader return all the stolen artifacs from our holy temple …

CLASS….?  YOU DONT KNOW CLASS..YOUR NATION HAS KNOWN KILLING ….’YANKEEMAN’  REMINDS US AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM ALWAYS RISE TO REMIND US HOW CRUEL YOU HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE…. 

WHAT BOTHERS YOU  NOW IS THAT THE JEWS  ARE RISING ABOVE YOU AGAIN …..

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 wolfmanJACK:   ic lefs room slipped up again. i noticed they had a problem like that a few months ago never went back in there for that reason. youre better off without the bs. strange person this lef . he couldnt care less about the fact hes wrong in front of jews. he cares what the xtians are thinking?. hes a numbers runner. he dont care what garbage is in there as long as he has that false support from anyone i suppose. hes a rasha garbage jew that lef

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 lenny abravanel to me

JewswithViews;post to,Lef48.
Although, I am not a direct witness to the issue causing this controversy between, Dacon9  this political chat room and, it’s owner- Lef48. I would like to interject to say on the issue of the Torah and forbidden/false gods. Lef48 I am appalled by your refusal to accept and,recognize your obvious error regarding this issue. You should open your eyes and embrace the emess of the Torah which states clearly you are wrong.I whole heartedly agree with reader; Deborah (she raises in her chatback to Lef48).on the issue of serious consequence and wrongness on behalf of Lef48;to insist these wrong things Lef48  or any other jew say are the truth and what  problems it can confront to a jew not knowing any better and may believes these outright fabrications presented by Lef48 or any other jew.Deborah also raises a very interesting point regarding Baal or Meloch. Lef48, just as you want Dacon9 to show decency to appease your personal embarrassment over this issue,and requested him to apologize,I think you should also follow your own advice and  show some decency and correct yourself regarding your ignorance on said Torah issues.
 

 All this being said, I think the thing i’m most confused about is your accusal that Dacon9 has presented himself a, ‘chillul Hashem? I would dare ask how and why you would say such a riduculous thing but, I am aware that you have no knowledge at all in Torah and find it moot asking  you those questions. As a jew ,I do. Have the obligation, to point out when I bare witness to such questionable actions and behaviors coming from another jew. I am obligated to point his out for the safety of all other jews who might be misguided by your words which are false.’And for this reason I write this chatback to Lef48 and all other jews who follow his obvious err.
  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

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Tags: Commentary & Opinion · JEWISH LOVE · Jewish World & History · Missionary attacks · Parasha & Religion

5 responses so far ↓

  • 1 lef48 // Dec 1, 2009 at 3:45 am

    I am the room owner, I was not there at the time this incident happened.

    I am a jew, fairly well versed in what jews can do or should not do when discussing religion with say christians.

    From the reports I got ALL parties are to blame on this occasion. Both sides made a mountain out of a molehill.

    The day fllowing the incident, I spoke at length to the room on the MIC on this subject and the matter is now clearly understood by the christian parties I spoke to.

    I invite you to come back to my room at any time. There is no need to create a rift when no rift exists except for the ego of some people on both sides. I regret to say that the jew who pretended that the Torah forbids to say the words Jesus-C. is mistaken. The Torah does not mention Jesus.

    I am very sad that good jewish friends are under the false impression that my room does not welcome them just because one guy took up an argument with them over a trivial matter. Incidentally this person is no longger an admin in my room.

    Rather than spread rumours, I suggest you contact me personally and / or just return to the room which welcomes you.

    Yours sincerely and shalom,

    lef48

  • 2 Mishnah // Dec 2, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Lef48….You have revealed your ignorance to other Jews, by your lack of reasoning,knowledge, and fairness. Not to mention your lack of knowledge to Torah.You have said, untruths regarding what Jews are permitted to do regarding false gods. A very irrisponsible thing to do, with serious consequences to you.. Lef48 you are now obligated to come forth with truths to this lie you perpertrated on all jews who read your words,who could be, or could have been influenced by them. You are also obligated to an apology to Dacon who was publicly offended and Loshon Hara’d by you. ( an apology specific and detailed to fit the issue).

    There are many sources for the prohibition NOT to let the name of another idol/god to pass over your lips.
    The basis for this is Shemos 23:13 “Be careful to do all things that I have said to you; and don’t invoke the name of other gods, neither let them be heard out of your mouth.” If any other Jew or Lef48 refuses to accept this .and are arguing against this; written Torah,…. then they wont accept anything Rambam or the Shulchan Aruch say. They be ignorant and unaware of what is the truth.

    And before Lef48 or,any of you come back with; ‘Why there are false gods mentioned in the Torah , so, we must be able to repeat their names??????????? ‘ We are allowed to mention the names of gods mentioned in the Torah, for instance Baal or Meloch because… they are in Torah and are no longer worshipped. But… NOT the names of foreign gods today such as yuske.
    Gd Forbid………………..
    And to all of our Xtian friends out there???…I hope you all get everything you deserve on XMAS! with EXtra trimmings…

  • 3 lef48 // Dec 2, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    I regret to say that you are either ignorant or arrogant.
    Or likely both.

    You are comitting Chillul Hashem by your position on this issue.

    I wish good luck on the personal level. May you also become enlightened with a measure of wisdom.

    Meantime, indeed we are not likely to meet again in my room. Have the decency to admit that YOU left the room and that no one ejected you.

    shalom,
    lef48

  • 4 Hell-Kitty // Dec 5, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Dacron, i don’t care what you are, you’re an arrogant j-rk. these good people have come back to invite you kindly but you’re too arrogant and to up your own nose to see class when it hits you in your F-ce. this has nothing to do with religion or beliefs, i believe you’re an angry, narcissitic and vindictive man. have fun, take your meds, lie down, and talk to a professional lmao or should i say ‘l-m-o’

  • 5 JewishDefenseLeague (PalTalk) // Dec 10, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    I have been in and on paltalk for many years now. I have been a Christian Pastor & Messianic Leader and now a Noachide.

    There is and has always been tension within these rooms that are ready to burst. Once in awhile the ballon pops and out spills the deep and buried emotions of people for whatever reason or cataylist.

    I am always on my guard regarding these issues. I know each person involved in this situation and I feel a need to respond and I hope what I am about to say will not offend but it will due to the emotional content of the subject.

    Christians either for personal or professional reasons state they support the Jewish people however one must look further into the motive; intent or purpose of statements or actions.

    There stands in the annuals of time from our ancestors similar situations and we must look to those lessons to glean the necessary response. There is a reason why the Jewish people must be separate from other nations. We can be nice and friendly to each other in passing (towards other religions). However in Human devolpment there is a term called learning by association(observational learning) which means once you are exposed to other teachings that are not your own you will take on those teachings if your previous learning foundation is not reinforced. Therefore any Jew must be ever vigilant of this learning process.

    I can carry on but will probally bore you with too many facts LOL!

    Shalom
    JDL

    DEBORAH ANSWERS:
    BRAVVVVO!! …SOMEONE DECIDED TO POST SOMETHING HONEST…AMONG THE NONJEWS,,,,I DONT KNOW HOW HE COULD HAVE THOUGHT HE WAS BORING US WITH DETAILS…I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE MORE DETAILS….I DONT THINK IT WAS DETAILED ENOUGH!…..LOL….GOOD LETTER

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