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AVI K, ASKS ABOUT THE LIBERAL JEW.

August 26th, 2012 · No Comments

The Liberal Jew- ISRAELS WORST ENEMY?

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This is not a post exclusively about Israel. It’s a post dealing with mindset of the gullible and foolish.This is nothing new.Josef Stalin used to call his liberal supporters in the West “useful Idiots.”Of course, idiots rarely realize that they are, so the term never bothered them.

The ‘World’ is and has always been a battleground. In the past, this was based on food supply, water rights and land.Today, it’s predominantly ideological, but with a twist that goes back some 1,500 years.That throwback to a more fanatical time is murder and torture, in the name of propagation of a faith.

I’m not a liberal/progressive and therefore, do not believe America is evil. Indeed, I’m convinced it is the bastion of everything decent and noble in the world.It is a fortress, surrounded by an outer perimeter of allies who take some of our heat.They are  one of our line of defenses. One of these outposts is Israel.

One would think that American Jews would be supportive of Israel. This certainly fits into the pathology of the Jew hater and Jihadi who see Jewish people spending their time conspiring to take over the world.But in reality, this view couldn’t be further from the truth, it’s nothing more than a pile of outright lies, spread by the ignorant and those with an agenda of pure hatred.

In my mind and by observation, the spirit of the liberal Jews is wedded more to the ideology of the Democrat Party. It seems to defy identification with faith, heritage and nation.Many liberals seem to feel that way and most are not Jewish, but they are not the point of this post.

The American left has grown increasingly anti-Israel, strongly tinged with anti-Semitism.You can be Jewish and be a member of Code Pink or affiliated with MoveOn.org, just so long as you are secular and left.It’s even better if you are overtly anti-Israel as proof of your left wing credentials.

George Soros is a good example of this. So is Cass Sunstein and his wife Samantha Power.The latter is not of Jewish background, but questions the right of Israel to even exist.She is Special Assistant on Human Rights to Barack Obama and undoubtedly reflects his views.

So what is it about the pathology of the Jewish genius that invented things like Google, the cell phone, Facebook and a host of things that have placed America on the cutting edge?Why do they create organizations like “J Street” who claim to support Israel but work for it’s destruction through money from George Soros and Saudi Arabia?

I particularly invite Jews and Evangelical Christians to offer their opinion, but most anyone is welcome to enlighten me as I scratch my head in bewilderment.I invite liberal Jews because they bemuse me the most.

Thanks to all who respond.

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FROM: MINDY KOHEN

The liberals seem to think issues do not, will not count for anything, only dreams, wishes, and fairy tail endings should be the outcome as far as the future goes. The liberals think up attacks against everyone else for anything else.  They will always create a scenario because they truly believe it can happen in their storybook world. Reality has no place in the liberal mindset.
Avi K . keep it coming!…..the truth…something else the liberal has no use for.

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FROM: LENNY A

Shalom Jews with views.
to: Avi k.
 
Avi K. is definately correct in the ‘liberal Jew’ getting worst enemy vote.
I am in the Israeli motion picture business, and anyone who watches or has seen a typical Israeli movie on any subject matter, would notice that the heredim in Eretz Israel is always made to look as if they were making irrational decisions, they are made to look stupid, ignorant, clueless, perverted , mean and angry ,the industry makes it appear as if all decisions and actions made in the name of their adherence and devotion to Torah are made based on ignorance, and often show a downward spiral of events happening due to those decisions of their complete trust and faith to Torah and their refusal to offend Hashem. It depicts their dillema in detail to show they would also be willing to make risks and sacrifices regarding their own children and family members done with hideous dissregard or normal thought.
This has been going on for years and will always continue I think

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FROM MAURICE:

 This is for AVI K.
You are ‘point-on’ in your liberal Jews roast.
This isn’t a judgement call here with what you say, it’s an obligation to scream the truth to us all (the whole) Klal Israel.
To warn of disasters,dangers and iminent diseases < a liberal mind won’t know what that means<
Maurice

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 FROM READER:  Cup_a_Noodles:

hey dacon!  your article started furor in one of the israeli rooms today . the one bout liberal Jews worst enemy. I think they want to spank Avi K. . I backed up Avi K and reminded them that everything he said was the truth about key issues ; and was not only Avi K’k position ( as a Jew) to point out his concerns , but we are all obligated to point out to another Jews questionable behavior when we see it. and it is true liberal Jews are mistaking culturism for Judiaism, and on top of it, holding resentment and anger for Jews who want to respect and observe what Torah tell us . Not what we ‘want’ to do instead. please post this dacon, Avi K. is owning up to his responsibility as a concerned and caring Jew. thank you!!, thanks dacon.

Nice to see you busy again dacon, i was sad when i saw your blog vacant for the reasons it was. I always davened for you and your family.

great to see you, keep the controversy , truth and interest coming from Jews with Views!
also, nice to see Levana haza ( electra 54) in comment, when is she going to write long stuff again?
 
 thank to you dacon
shavua tov!!!!!
Cup_a_Noodles
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FROM: FrumThe-Fringe:
FrumThe-Fringe: yes. cen you plz sent Avi K>
 
  a message to jews /views TODA! for speak emes.
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Shalom Jews with Views.

Chai Israel
Anyone Jew who really has concern for Eretz Israel, to preserve her integrity, and the Milk and Honey for all future generations to feel safe in and not be victim in our own land , not our enemies there but, ‘liberal’ Jews.
Dacon said something very key and important when he posted:
 EDITORS QUESTION: ARE WE CONFUSING ”OBESERVANCE ‘ ‘ WITH ”LIBERALISM” ?
I SEE THEM AS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUES. .
There is no obervance with liberalism, that is an absolute oxymoron . we can’t be observant, and make decision void of any observance at all, at the same time..
The liberal Jew shifts any observance the Torah demands for a self indulment of his/her own comfort zone, which is not only a enemy to Israel but a stronger enemy to Torah.
Thanks to Avi. K for the report.
Also, Levana haza GTCU!
Please continue to send in your opinions.
 Sophia K

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ED replies: There are liberals who are observant but then at what level of observance?
And there are observant who are liberal in acceptance of lesser levels of observance…
 so as not to chase them away but open our arms of Torah and our shuls.
 
I believe its time  we all open our arms to all levels of observance so as not to chase the Jews away to the welcome wagons of missionaries
.There are those that mix  everything into one basket as an excuse to stay away from rabbis and Torah and  there are those that say good riddance to them
And there are those that misinterpret the literal definition of liberal and observance….
 
In my opinion…as long as they dont deny “”ONE GD AND UNTOUCHED UNALTERED TORAH”"
WE SHOULD OPEN UP TO  ALL OF THOSE,,,,
 
BUT LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR,,,let me be clear..
NOT to the deniers, misisonaries , the erev ,the j4j and assorted rif raf.
Thats a job for MASHIACH,

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FROM ARI (  i think i typos myself..its ari not avi there are several avis on your blog im ari,the first post you have from avi on jews with views is me. i posted it directly to the blog, it anytime it states I was one of prof. Soloveitchiks students that would be me.)

Liberalism ‘Is indeed the philosophy of the stupid’. good call to Avraham53.
And excellent call to the originator of this subject of Israel’s worst enemies..Avi K.
To; Blue Velvet I am NOT calling you an x-tian, but you are thinking like one with your liberal thoughts regarding Eretz Israel and what true support means, stop the mob mentality of political correctness.

Levana Is so right with her contribution to the string when she says; stop being politically correct, its not becoming or is it correct).
Blue velvet i’m not here to attack you by any means, but you really do need a reality check with most if not all of your statements.

Dacon thanks for displaying the current front story of Rabbi Soloveitchik.
I was a student of Prof.S Soloveitchik and think it’s safe to say he would also agree with Avi. K and his lament of what makes up Israel’s worst enemies.
As we many times held similar conversations among a handful of close students, and Prof. Soloveitchik would many times engage in discussion with very similar or same thought.
Thanks to Dacon, jews with views, Avi K. Avraham53, and Haza levana, and also Blue Velvet for sending in her comment, although we disagree.

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FROM AVI K

Dacon Sir.
Thank you for your constant hard work and sincere concern for all of us.
It is amazing to see you back in action with anti-missionary works and all else you do unselfishly day after day.
I am thanking Hashem many times for making you well in such short time.
ty,
Ari

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 FROM: Maharaja_13:

Pardon me. are you the very same dacon who is operating a blog calls, jewish vith views? i am not a jewish , am not a muslim and am not a christian, but would like to ask, a question to your blog . are you suggesting that liberal jewish people are Israels worst enemy? is that not a racist suggestion? how could you include your own peoples as worst enemy to Israel? thank you for reading my question. i do not debate or argue re religion , i am very curious about your blogs suggestion it is very interesting

 FROM EDITOR

THE ENEMY WITHIN IS MORE DANGEROUS THEN THE ENEMY FROM OUTSIDE.

 THE ENEMY WITHIN KNOWS MORE OF YOUR VULNERABLE POINTS .
AND HE IS WITHIN THE   INNER CIRCLE WHO HAS AN EASIER REACH THEN ONE WHO HAS TO FIGHT FROM OUTSIDE.
EVERY GROUP HAS ITS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ADHERANCE AND LOYALTY.
THE LOYALTIES OF  THE LIBERALS HAVE ABANDON THE WAYS OF THEIR FATHERS AND ARE MORE LOYAL TO THE PERSONAL MISGUIDED VIEWS RATHER THEN  WHAT G-D ASKS OF THE JEWS. SIMPLY PUT, THESE LIBERAL  jews ATTITUDES HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED BY THE MATERIAL WORLD AND HAVE ABANDONE  THE SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS FROM THEIR FORE FATHERS . HAVING MORE IN COMMON WITH  THE ENEMIES  DEMANDS , THEN THE HONESTY AND TRUTH OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF JEWISH TRADITION.

Judaism is the only religion honest enough to admit its own faults and correct them and who banish the violater if he doesnt learn from our teachers.

furthermore those liberal jews support our own enemies whether the arabs or the xtians who are missionaries and seducing Jews away from the ONE G’D.

 The liberals form NGO and force *their own* fellow jews out of *their* own homes.

 These liberal so called Jews cause a media frenzy if a JEW should defend himself against the arab attacks.

 These ‘so called jew’  liberal caused Israeli check point to close which resulted in instant arabs attacking taking full advantage of that opening.

 The strange thing is you havent chosen any sides according to you, but question Judaism in a negative light which obviously leans towards you having taken a side inspite of your denial.

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post 1,Maharaja_13:  very well said. you touched upon very important issues. i particularly think these words by you are the most vital and its level of importance is critical is >> HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED BY THE MATERIAL WORLD AND HAVE ABANDONE THE SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS FROM THEIR FORE FATHERS <<<< your response has taught me , and i thank you sincerely. 

post 2,  I knew the peoples at nariman house were exceptional persons (Ed: Cin Mumbai WHERE  the rabbi and wife and family  were massacered), my experiences with jewish peoples have been rewarding and i have learned many things about jewish religion and culture and you are right it has moral standing and credibility. thank you

post 3,  one more point i forgots to post was that, i just did not understand how jewish people could be called a worst enemy to israel ( a land i thought all jewish people cherished) i always understood fully every single form of racisms and internal racisms but did not realized that effected and included ones land in this case is israel. very interesting, thank you

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FROM ESTHER:

Shalom Jews with Views.
I would like to say, I agree with the whole package on what Avi K. has put forth regarding Israel’s worst enemies, it’s definately an internal problem ‘the liberal Jew”.
I like Avi’ K writing style and also hopes Levana Haza continues to contribute, I enjoyed her earlier posts,
Thank you,
Esther.

 

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FROM READER

Serve 2 Protect:  Dacon. Let me tell you, that is a very well written letter by Avi K. in your newest roll on jews w views. Hes on the mark with george soros, dam, im so glad you got that info out there , during this election times. that was brilliant dacon no doubt we can always count on your reports being well delivered and reliable. i enjoyed that one though right down to the ending when he says that liberal jews bemuse him the most..lmao! right on bro. cut n paste this to jews w view

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FROM READER: Avihu-Medina: I like the chatbak fron avi k. very good!

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FROM: corone101:

Dacon, Good deal with your newest story line-up on Jews with Views. I hadn’t even heard on this guy george soros and his crew that is described in Avi. K’k report. I checked that out and he’s sedinately on the mark with his information. Thanks for making that aware to peoples. I never voted for obama anyway and would not ever vote for him for a second term, but this devious dealings that are being done by his underling clingons are despicable for sure. I printed out the story by Avi k. cause I notice the blog rolls very fast, and I thought it was extremely thought provoking. Great Job dacon , Jews with Views and Avi K. My compliments. you can post my comment if you want. thanks.

also, I would like to back up the fact that liberal Jews are ruining klal Yisrael, and are racist to the maximum against heredim especially in Eretz Yisrael. I have seen it first hand. and would say on other occounts of Avis description are pretty accurate. Thanks

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FROM DACON9: I like to add that American one time presidential candidate john kerrys wife teresa heinz  donated 5 million dollars to the muslim brotherhood at the time of his candidacy. At the same time, American democrate Jews were supporting him. Conditioned response? Its time to recognize that democrates do not hold the same values as the Jews.

The GOP  invocation speech was given by Rabbi Meir Soloveitchick of Yeshiva University and the Soloveitchick dynasty.

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 GraveDigger_USMC:

im glad to hear your doin better physically, im sure time and the compassion of Hashem will help hear the emotional loss of many members of ones family in a short time. thats a tought one boss . that is serious pressure. im glad you are continuing jews with views with force again, i missed it and some of the encouragements you throw to us whenever you could, which was many times bro, many times!. cant thank you enough for that. i combed through a few of your new articles, i like the letter from Avi k. i havent thought of some of the things he poated about, i tell ya they made me think, i agree with him more than not.he sounds like a balanced dude. anyways my friend please keep it movin , you and your brand make a diffrence to some of us crazy mutha f@c%s. and there must be many of us around,i will throw myself in that pile too.lol

stay well  and please remain kickin ass bro ,we all need ya.

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FROM Blue_Velvet_1:

dacon please post this to jews w views to Avi K. i strongly dissagree w him ty.None of the above. You said you’re a “practitioner of the Jewish faith.” Which means you are not Jewish and do not speak for American Jews or Jewish people anywhere. How dare you accuse liberal Jews of being Israels worst enemy.

You should be ashamed of posting this hateful piece of liberal bashing bull$hit. This is a blight; derogatory, detrimental and bordering on being antisemitic. It certainly is towards liberal American Jews who love Israel, are concerned about Israel’s future and want a viable solution for peace. Where do you get off saying that we’re not supportive of Israel or believe America is evil?

I want Avi K . to answer that

( From Editor, please point out exactly and specifically all your points against Avis opinion. You are welcomed to write a rebuttal which will also be featured)

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 BLACK SUIT RED TIE: I INADVETENTLY DELETED YOUR COMMENT, PLEASE REPOST TO MY EMAIL LISTED ON BOTTOM , THANKS

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FROM : SIMON KATZ USS-BB-62 New Jersey

David  aka DACON9

All of us; on the USS-BB-62 New Jersey would like to salute you and wish you a “Welcome Back”.

As always anything I can do for you, is just a request away.

I would also like to compliment some of your new material on Jews with Views.

The piece called: The Liberal Jew- ISRAELS WORST ENEMY?

BRAVO!.

I thoroughly enjoyed that read. Avi K. is on the information, I also noticed your ( David’s) codicil to that re: Theresa Heinz/Kerry.

I will keep this e-mail light, because I could add other very dirty issues re: these two. and others who follow suit.

As usual, Jews with views Delivers .

I’m sure you know the vid. of  Rav. Meir Soloveitchik is related to Prof.X ( Prof. Rabbi Soloveitchik) closely.

The Soloveitchiks have a relative(a young girl) i forget her first name but she is a Soloveitchik ( a frum girl) running for a senatorial position.
It appears that Hashem does favor them, because every one of them are remarkable
I see some of my buddies left you chatbacks, salutes to them as well

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FROM: STANLEY K

Jews with Views .

Can I please add this chatback to the currently standing issue of. ‘Israel’s worst enemies” text.

I believe liberal Jews are in bed with Israel’s worst enemies, they choose to support those who are doing whatever they can to destroy Eretz Israel.  obama has and will continue to snub Israel.

While Bush was President he showed support for the Jewish State of Israel, Now with obama we see Israel under great danger with the unrest in the Mid-East that could put extremest muslims in charge. obama’s aid to these rebels in libya despite admitted terrorists in their mists, So libyan oil under the control of these rebels can end up killing more Americans and Jews.

Thank you, Jews with Views.

Stan.

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FROM: AVRAHAM 53

“Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid”  << quote (Mark Levin) “Liberal Jews” have sided with the decadence of leftist, hedonistic and moral depravity, anything goes mentality. That’s why they welcome homosexuality and lesbian rabbis, some go as far to break bread with the enemy, ie: Lynn Gotleib, reform moron that sides with Mahmood Acmedininutjob. Eventually the will disappear because they are declining in numbers just by marrying out of our tribe. If they only knew that there are more anti-Jews in the Democrat party along with Jewish anti-Jews like Tommy Friedman, Martin Indyk, George Soros and Dennis Ross. Let’s not forget the anti-Jews in Israel; Shimon Peres, BiBi Netanyahu, Yosi Balin I can’t get them all. Only Political conservatism will win the day and leadership. Only Torah will bring Israel on the right path

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FROM: GrampaGrumpy   to me in a private message

‪ GrampaGrumpy: are you the dacon who is runnin the jews n views website? someone on Pal Talk chat told me to gander at it, and i did and the thing with the liberal jew story and the bashback , thats a funny as hell disagree. good goin if it is you who runs it. ty

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FROM  Blue_Velvet

Dear Dacon. I just want you to know that I still respect and adore you dearly. I want to appologize for leaving Avi K . such a strong message on Jews with views, but my goodness! oooooh!!!! he made me soo mad!. Avi. K is a self hating Jew or an antisemite. Everyone knows that liberal Jews are the best supporters of Israel. I respect that you ( Dacon) allow every type of opinion on your Blog. and, thats what makes it such a great blog, and thats why we love you so much dacon. cuz, we don’t have to have the same opinion, but , you are always fair. so thatnks again for posting my response to Mr. Avi. K. and will wait for his response to my response. lol have a good day Dacon.

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EDITORS QUESTION:  ARE WE CONFUSING  ”OBESERVANCE ‘ ‘ WITH  ”LIBERALISM” ? 
I SEE THEM AS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUES

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FROM: HAZA LEVANA

Jews with Views:

Please forward to the string of ‘Liberal Jews / Israels worst enemies”.

I would like to add my opinion to this discussion of what is clearly and undeniably Israels worst enemy, ‘The liberal Jew’.

Avi K < You are 100% CORRECT- in not only some , but ‘every one’ of your statements.

I can see that you understand some of the things that are eroding away any moral and decent character we as Jews are demanded to follow and observe strictly by our one and only Torah and what we are decreed by Hashem to follow.

I can tell quickly, Blue-Velvet  most probably hasn’t ever stepped foot in eretz Israel, or hasn’t visited for a good period of time.

I would like to know what exactly in Avi’s description did Blue-Velvet find antisemitic or why she accused Avi of not being a Jew ( a chillul Hashem) if her public accusation is  wrong.( could be motzei shem ra and loshon hara)

I own 4 businesses in Israel and Yerushalayim and maintain domiciliary here, and could pen a description that would Pale Avi’s by far. Frankly much of what he says is clearly obvious, and I am surprised clear minded Jews are blind to this, ( stop being politically correct, its not becoming or is it correct). also , I don’t think you actually ‘Got” what Avi is clearly trying to say.( he says right off that it is NOT exclusively about Israel , but instead ignorant and gullible mindset) he makes this clear, I suggest you re-read the article.

I would like to see Blue-Velvet elaborate what specifics of information in Avi’s coverage made her think to accuse Avi of being an antisemitic or a self hating Jew. which is the first accusation We usually hear from x-tians or goyim trying to be Jews.

I have more opinion on this subject, but would like to clear this issue first.

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